retired_deegirl41

leroy, what do you think about what I said above?
That every player has it's own closing down line depending on his position.
so a closing down 10 for a CB makes a deeper closing down line than a closing down 10 for a MC.

retired_rjw13838

Yes we can.

Im not asking for

but for

And if we compare what is written in the first post of this thread, to what is written in the manual, then nothing can be found in the manual that is written here. So, assuming that Rashidi indeed is correct, then the manual is not only not telling us what it is, it is in fact telling us something that it isnt. We have every right to blame SI for this. If you're going to create and sell a product, then at least get off your ass and provide a proper, complete and thruthfull explanation.

retired_cindymerc

leroy1183,what is the best closing down settings for a 442.I have sort of tried to implement rashidi's idea of closing low at back high at up front. I use CBs on highest of rarely, FB's on mixed(10) and my wingers and mids on first notch of often.

Im a bit confused as to what closing down settings , because rashidi suggested on a 442 have one on mc on mixed an one on max cd.
what settings do you use generally?

retired_krpotram

Great post but is something missing ....the width....
i made the exp with the various closing downs and defensive lines....but the width have a great impact in the sucess of the both closing and def. line.
if you want to start your closing down in your fowards in the oposittion box i think is better to have a wide formation with a high width.
thats my opinion.

retired_kellyk

Great...I just started another debate

Ok Badboy...don't be confused. There are 2 ways you can play your MC's. Based on what you asked in the other thread, you wanted one more attacking than the other...then the attacking one is on max, the other mc who's supposed to be defensive has a DMentality of 10 and a cd of 10..the wingers are on max... Try this on a normal DLine. If the closing down instructions are right...the MC will hold his position and only commit if someone enters his zone.

The idea here is to watch the MC in your formation to see if he does what you expect. You need to try it and if he doesn't and upping your DLine does not make him do a better job...try increasing his CD, bring DL back to 10 again.

Before I forget...WIDTH is defensive tweak...think of it in those terms..no matter how narrow your width if you are playing with wingforwards or farrowed wingers and your instructions say cross from bye...that is still what they will do when THEY have the chance. Decreasing or increasing width just narrows the field of play, since CD is subject to zones..then this should not make much of a difference.

Now i have assumed that for only zonal marking. I have no clue to whether this holds for manmarking or not.

Once again these are just my opinions and should not be construed as fact since I have never claimed such. This approach has worked for me countless times. But seems to work best for formations with 4 at the back. Closing down instructions may be different for other formations.

cheerz

retired_jemar1959

Jeezo... Why on earth would the developers of a game give out in-depth instructions on how to best play - and in this case win - the game!? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose?

Never mind the fact that, in football, this 'ambiguity and unpredictability' is kinda the point (and also the beauty)!!

retired_jemar1959

Also, good thread Leroy. My own experiences in FM07 would agree... Especially my 'high-ish Dline and high closing down to keep the pressure on' home (and losing away) tactic, and my 'deeper Dline and less closing down along with narrower width to keep compact and then spring out on the counter' away (and defending a lead) tactic'.

retired_hope

Hi Raniel,

I don't believe this to be the case.

If you set your DC on closing down 10 and a MC on closing down 10 they will both only close down once the black line closing down line is crossed at the same point on the pitch.

However because MC is in a higher positon he will most likely close the ball down first because it will enter his zone first. The DC will not start to close until the ball enters his zone.

retired_hope

Your 900 years too early but I will let you off just this once.

It their is no best way, but you do need to consider what you want your players to do.

Basically set up you closing down based on your D-line and where on the pitch you think the players should start to close down.

Example, I usually play 4-4-2 with an midfield enforcer and a creative midfielder combination.

I wouldn't set closing down on the creative player too high, because I want him to get into a good positon ready for when I win the ball back. I only want him to start to close down when we are in the first quarter of the pitch so that he can close down set pieces etc.

The enforcer would close down higher up the pitch because he it the man in the center of the part to win me back the ball.

Consider what you want the players to do and whether they have the attributes to do it, without tiring themselves out an becoming less effective.

retired_hope

Didn't mention width because I wanted to get across the concept of how closing down works.

In terms of the effect on closing down. If you play wider, when a player has to close down someone though the middle, they will have further to move to intercept them. This could be the difference between them running though the gap or being caught.

So generally playing narrower allow you to reduce the risk of this happening. But playing wider allows your players more time on the ball down the wing because the opposition defence will have to move further to close you down.