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Ive played cm and fm games for years, but the amount of unrealistic results is this game is stupid.
Example- I'm playing as leicester, pretty standard tactics, 4 4 2, but with two wingers. I have one of the best squads in the championship (2nd season) and am 2nd in the table. De vries now plays for southend , who are 23rd in the table. Before the game when they ask me about facing him again, I say he's gonna be no threat. He's a pretty rubbish player. Anyway, he scores 5 goals in the game and I lose 5-1 . I changed my tactics around, made subs, nothing changed. The game wanted me to lose. He scored a hat trick in 20 minutes. He had hardly scored any goals all season.
Another - I play wolves who are 4th, away. I go 3 nil down in 10 minutes. I have about 25 shots on goal in this game, and most possesion and still lose 4-1. For seemingly no reason. Yes i understand freak results happen, but the game just seems so unrealistic with the way results work out. Out of interest I reloaded and played the game again, different tactics, different team talk. Im winning 3-0 by the 70th minute. They bring on a sub striker and he scores a hat trick in 10 minutes to make it a 3 - 3 result.
I lost interest in this game and just played along with it. Reading are top of the table, I play them away. Some mind games with the manager, and me telling my players pre match i expect a win = A 7-1 loss. My tactics and everything is fine - i have the 3rd best defensive record in the league. Also i hardly ever, ever get 0-0 results anymore. Which in real life what the reading result could have been. The game is SO based on team talks and pre match comments , its unbelievable. Hopefully the patch will make some of these things better.
I know this sometimes happens in football - im just sick of matches where the computer seems to have pre determined the scoreline. It seems like the scales are too extreme.
I honestly believe the best pre-match comments are.....to make no comment. I agree that the 'mind games' do have too much of an influence, so I never get involved in them.
However I firmly believe that team talks should have a large effect on performane and results, it a huge part of a managers job imo
I think team talks should be mostly minimal and reserved for big games or intimidating situations. Having a huge effect every week is what is not terribly realistic.
Most teams, when facing Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal away could give the best team talk of the manager's life and still get slaughtered. In the same respect, the managers of the big four can probably say little right before the game and be fine. It is the weekly preperation that makes the difference.
Team talks should be used for major situations or huge games. Finals, semi-finals, rivalries, or major losses and defeats.
Example: what the Roma manager said after Roma's 7-1 loss to Man U was probably a lot more important than what Arse said after Arsenal thumped Derby.
Unfortunately, game wise they seem to have the same influence and importance.
so at half time during a "normal" league match a manager doesn't try to keep his players motivated and focused? He just makes a couple of tactical changes and sends them back out? Don't think so.
I'm not saying its the most important part of management, but it should not be underestimated either.
I agree totally about there being too many ridiculous goings on in matches. It so often happens to me that I have 30 chances in a game, to the other teams 5 and lose 1-0. I'm Man U at mo, just played Wigan away and drew 0-0, 37 chances to their 6. Rooney missed 8 sitters where he blazed over the bar in front of the goal. When you're watching a match the amount of sitters that are missed is stupid, wish they'd sort it out as the game just isn't realistic.
thefoxes87, very much of the things you are experiencing happens to me too.
In my Blackburn-game I was 4-0 up against Liverpool at home, then Shabby Alonso scored a 45 yard freekick and Dirk Kuyt scored a hat-trick in the last 15 minutes. Sounds like the Istanbul game all over again
It happens alot this. Especially in the dying secongs of the match. Annoying.
You told your players you expected them to win when you were playing the team top of the league? No wonder you lost.
If you're losing any games 5-1 or 7-1 then there's something fundamentally wrong with your tactics going into that game. You need to think about how the team you're playing's going to play against you. who the danger men are and how to stifle those danger men.
I do agree that pre-match comments are a bit of a minefield and I generally avoid them altogether. The team talks can have a bit of an exaggerated effect if you use the wrong one as well. It's just a case of learning which team talks work and getting on with it.
Originally posted by neil220779:
so at half time during a "normal" league match a manager doesn't try to keep his players motivated and focused? He just makes a couple of tactical changes and sends them back out? Don't think so.
I'm not saying its the most important part of management, but it should not be underestimated either.
Motivated and focused are a very different thing from inspiring a turn around or overcoming an obstacle, even if it is the players themselves that need to be overcome.
I am just saying that different levels of match would get different amounts of response and importance from the match talks.
You think Ryan Giggs really gets the exact same out of every talk after 15 odd years? In the gam ethey are all exactly the same.
Ridiculous 
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