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Old 11-17-2007, 09:22 AM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #11
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There's one very important factor missing here - who was doing the shooting. There are big differences between individual players, some shoot rarely but shoot true, others splash the ball at the goal for all they're worth and occasionally sneak one through.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:41 AM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #12
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I definitely would rule out any conspiracy about the AI being slanted and in FM07 I realized that it all came down to opportunities created.

Of course there were times where the opposition's keeper would put on the performance of his life and I would draw or even worse, the opposition would snag a 1-0 win with only 2 shots on target, but for the most part when I won, I usually out shot my opponent 4-1(shots on target).

Most of my time played on FM07 was with Arsenal, but I also had a few seasons with Mantova in the Serie B and the results were the same for the most part.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:43 AM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #13
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There's one very important factor missing here - who was doing the shooting. There are big differences between individual players, some shoot rarely but shoot true, others splash the ball at the goal for all they're worth and occasionally sneak one through.
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:57 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #14
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i've played a couple of seasons and i never saw any GK making an amazing game, neither have saw anyone making a 10 and hardly making a 9. it's impossible for any player to have the influence they have in real life...
I've been watching football for 30 years and I have seen once a 10 (Ancelotti, for his last game on the field, a tribute).

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Arsenal = 195 shots, 104 on target, 8 goals.
Against = 52 shots 25 on target, 9 goals.
Bumface: your ratio of shots vs the opponent is a very high: 4/1. Still the opponents shots look deadly. Seems like a very offensive setup on your side, with the defence playing too high and suffering from counterattacks / breaking the offside.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">There's one very important factor missing here - who was doing the shooting. There are big differences between individual players, some shoot rarely but shoot true, others splash the ball at the goal for all they're worth and occasionally sneak one through. </pre>

Mravac Kid: doesn't that boil down to playing your players to their strengths?
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:08 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #15
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The thing I find most annoying is that its impossible to score with a high tempo. Of course when you complain, all the fanboys say that with the high tempo, the players are "rushing" their shots.

In real life, Man Utd play with a high tempo, but I dont see them rushing their shots at all.

Also, the amount of shots in every game is ridiculous. Furthermore, in real life I never see many one-on-ones yet in FM there are way too many.

IMO, the match engine is not realistic.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:10 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE>i've played a couple of seasons and i never saw any GK making an amazing game, neither have saw anyone making a 10 and hardly making a 9. it's impossible for any player to have the influence they have in real life...
I've been watching football for 30 years and I have seen once a 10 (Ancelotti, for his last game on the field, a tribute).

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Arsenal = 195 shots, 104 on target, 8 goals.
Against = 52 shots 25 on target, 9 goals.
Bumface: your ratio of shots vs the opponent is a very high: 4/1. Still the opponents shots look deadly. Seems like a very offensive setup on your side, with the defence playing too high and suffering from counterattacks / breaking the offside.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">There's one very important factor missing here - who was doing the shooting. There are big differences between individual players, some shoot rarely but shoot true, others splash the ball at the goal for all they're worth and occasionally sneak one through. </pre>

Mravac Kid: doesn't that boil down to playing your players to their strengths? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I have a mix of Van Persie, Adebayor and Martins up front in a 4-3-1-2 formation, which is set up with mentality bang in the middle and the defensive line at 7 clicks. I have taken away ALL creative freedom and every players long shot instructions is set to rarely.

Opposition score because even with hard tackling enforced, most of the time my players let the opposition waltz by instaed of putting in any kind of challenge?.

Most of the shots i actually get on target are the ones from distance from either Van Der Vaart or Mattias Fernandez who are both usually lethal from distance, whilst my strikers in 1 on 1 situations and such are more likely to shoot off target?.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:22 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #17
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what annoys me is when my speedy strikers, Eto'o or Henry, gets onto a through ball and is one on one, they strike the ball hard into the keeper, I personally have never seem them try and take the ball around the keeper and rarely do i see them trying to place their shot into the corner
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:32 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #18
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Nice experiment I have been trying to pursuade people not to blame the engine when its their fault
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:04 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #19
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I scored 95 goals with 804 shots (12%)
AI scored 47 goals with 499 shots (9%)
therefore I score on average more per shot than the AI.

So you, AC Milan, on route to victory/the final in every competition you entered scored from 3% more shots than the teams you faced....that proves what exactly?

With such a dominant team shouldn't the gulf be wider?
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:15 PM   There is NO bias that favour AI (stats based on 59 games) Post #20
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You cant claim this as stats based on 59 games im afraid. You've based it on 50 games of 2 clubs. Im assuming, at least.

You had 800+ Shots
AI had 400+ Shot. That can not be all AI in the league. Therefore, you have selective stats. Try doing it for aLL the clubs in the division, and see where that leads you.
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