Realism=unplayability??

retired_junvan · 12-21-2007, 05:09 PM

Nice one. You got me there.
Too bad I'm not a youth.

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Originally posted by Nostromo:
<BLOCKQUOTE>O please c'mon. Don't try and portray yourselves as perfectionists becuase you sit on a chair and notice an issue with a video game.

im starting to have serious concerns about today's youth and the gene pool. </BLOCKQUOTE>

zib · 12-21-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by stokes_83:
Nice one. You got me there.
Too bad I'm not a youth.

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Nostromo:
<BLOCKQUOTE>O please c'mon. Don't try and portray yourselves as perfectionists becuase you sit on a chair and notice an issue with a video game.

im starting to have serious concerns about today's youth and the gene pool. </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE>

you don't get analogies, sarcasm...c'mon!!!

retired_vocostoner311 · 12-21-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Nostromo:
im starting to have serious concerns about today's youth and the gene pool.

Well i'm having concerns about people just accepting everything and are happy with everything they have, without any intention of improving it.

retired_junvan · 12-21-2007, 05:16 PM

How are YOU going to improve it? By whining 24 x 7?

retired_romey · 12-21-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by George Graham:

It because SI are damned in that we all have an opinion and a real life reference point to the content of the game.

There are games that are far less complex and buggier than FM- yet because they are abstract and have no real world reference for its players they get away with it.

This is pretty much the crux of the issue, but because SI have chosen FM to be a simulation then they will of course continue down this path.

But the game getting closer to reality isnt why people complain- its when it departs from that, or people perceive it to (as lets face it our moans are not always right).

And finally back to the point of my post!!!

But I take issue with your last statement on a philisopical point.

To say the game departs from reality assumes that it was at some point there. If that were the case I could see why people complain.

In fact year by year the game gets closer to reality. (Maybe it's 20% there now but we could debate this.) But my original point is that with each step closer you only reveal deeper flaws. Hence the debate gets angrier.

zib · 12-21-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stokes_83:
How are YOU going to improve it? By whining 24 x 7?

try to follow....

you raise issues + SI listens + SI graciously releases patch = game fixed

retired_junvan · 12-21-2007, 05:20 PM

Well I think it is safe to say that the 50,000 posts before this one regarding the issues may have gotten the point across.

retired_vocostoner311 · 12-21-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by stokes_83:
How are YOU going to improve it? By whining 24 x 7?

If you do nothing, nothing happens.

You may call it whining, but is beter known as saying your opinion.

And you don't like the game so much after all, since you are always replying insteadof playing your favourite (bugged) game.

zib · 12-21-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gMoses:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by George Graham:

It because SI are damned in that we all have an opinion and a real life reference point to the content of the game.

There are games that are far less complex and buggier than FM- yet because they are abstract and have no real world reference for its players they get away with it.

This is pretty much the crux of the issue, but because SI have chosen FM to be a simulation then they will of course continue down this path.

But the game getting closer to reality isnt why people complain- its when it departs from that, or people perceive it to (as lets face it our moans are not always right).

And finally back to the point of my post!!!

But I take issue with your last statement on a philisopical point.

To say the game departs from reality assumes that it was at some point there. If that were the case I could see why people complain.

In fact year by year the game gets closer to reality. (Maybe it's 20% there now but we could debate this.) But my original point is that with each step closer you only reveal deeper flaws. Hence the debate gets angrier. </BLOCKQUOTE>

im not sure the game is getting closer to reality. if anything, it is drifting away from it.

zib · 12-21-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by stokes_83:
Well I think it is safe to say that the 50,000 posts before this one regarding the issues may have gotten the point across.

apparently, that is not the case. the last patch didn't fix up all the problems. so it appears the message didnt get through.

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