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Old 07-29-2007, 07:41 PM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #1
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I've been using this tactic because it fits in with my personnal. I've tried it with Liverpool, Chelsea and Real and it's worked. Tried trying it with Milan, but they didn't have the right kind of players. It guarantees goals but it takes a long time (a couple of months) for a team to adapt to it, unless you are playing a similar formation eg 4-1-3-2

Formation is like this:

A solid GK
2 attacking full backs
A stopper (Carragher, Terry, Nesta and Cannavaro :thup: )
A fast CB
all in a flat back line, with the FBs farrowed

A playmaker (best if Spanish :thup
A box2box midfielder
as MCs

2 wingers (AML and AMR), farrowed

TM and FS (you can get away with 2 FS)

It works. If you don't care about what I've done with this tactic, scroll down and I'll give you the slider details.

At Chelsea, I had the ideal team for this formation. Bridge and Alves as FBs, Terry as stopper, and Carvalho or Boularouz partering him. Ballack and Fabregas were the CMs, and Ronaldo and Cole had swap postions ticked. Drogba or Adriano as TM, Henry or Sheva as FS.

Done the treble plus the Communtiy Shield. The strikers scored 125 goals between them. Ronaldo and Cole both got 10, as did Ballack. However, the DMs I had (Cambiasso and Makalele) started complaining about the lack of starts.

Liverpool had to have it changed a little. Finnan and Riise, Carragher (stopper) and Ferdiand, Sissoko DM, Alonso playmaker. Gerrard and Messi wingers. Strikers changed a lot as I had 6 first team (inc. Fowler) and also wanted to blood in Lindfield, and had signed the flop that is Matt Derbyshire. Carragher also got sent off twice and got 10 yellow cards, which is a lot of suspensions, but Hypia was more than able to cover. I had the other Ferdiand as cover for Rio.

Real Madrid didn't adapt quite as well to the tactic. Cannavaro and Agger (whom I spent my entire transfer budget buying) were a great partnership, even better than Terry and Carvalho. Carlos and Cichinho are very attacking full backs, but didn't do their jobs. Diara and Emerson played poorly, averaging only 6.67. Beckham, who partnered one of them in the midfield and was set to playmaker, was a goal and assist machine to rival Ronaldo. Reyes and the relativly unknown Marcus Tebar did well on the wings, like miniture Coles. RVN and Robinho formed an unconistent but goal scoring (if that makes sense) partnership. I took over when the team was in 11th in Jan, by the end of the season they were 5th.

At Milan, as I have already said, the tactic didn't work as Seedorf as the only AMR/L.

So the tactic works best in England.

Finer points and sliders
Team Mentaily: 17
Creative Freedom: 10
Passing Style: Direct works best, but slow had some success in Spain. 19 or 4
Tempo: Equivilant to passing style
Width: 18-20
Closing down: 11
TW: 1 (zero if zero exists)
Defensive line: 0/1 if playing a DM, 12 if not
Tackling: Easy
Focus Passing: Down both flanks
Zonal Marking
TM supply depneds on the player
Tight marking, use playmaker and use target man all ticked, but not play offside. Counter attack ticked if Tempo is fast.

Indiviual Metality: FBs 4 CBs 0/1 CMs 8-14 Wingers: Team STs: 20
Everything else team, but it depnds on the manger and the player eg Try Long shots would be 20 if you have a midfielder with 17+ long shots.

Feedback? I know it's a long post, but try to read it all.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:45 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #2
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have you ever tried it for more than 1 season?
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:48 PM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #3
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5 seasons. Each with different clubs. Chelsea- loads of success. Liverpool and Real Madrid- as much success as possible when Chelsea are hogging it all. Also I took over Real in January in the first season so it was hard. Milan were useless under the tactic, stick to a diamond for them. Also tryed Genoa (Seria B) but the low quality of player let use down. Only finished mid table despite some very good loan signings.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:39 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #4
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Are you going to post a link?
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What about Try Through balls, forward runs, cross ball, RWB? Do you play with a playmaker?
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:58 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #6
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Sounds pretty cool, I'll give it a go in my 'Super league'.

Just one question: you speak of using a DM, how would that work? directly behind the CM? That just makes the midfield look kinda empty..

Could you please post a couple of screenies just so I know what you mean?

Will let you know how it works
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:06 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by crazyrap465:
What about Try Through balls, forward runs, cross ball, RWB? Do you play with a playmaker?
Yeah what about individual instructions?
(sorry for double post)
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:11 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #8
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Started off very well with a deserved 1-0 win over PSV and an easy 3-0 over Porto, which promted this in the media:

http://www.thefreeimagehosting.com/U...000tactgen.jpg

But then I was unlucky to lose 1-2 to Valencia:

http://www.thefreeimagehosting.com/U...000tactgen.jpg


I'll play with this tacttic and let you know what the overall success of it is.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:14 AM   Tactic for European Giants- 4-4-2/4-2-2-2 Post #9
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Sorry, the second link should be:

http://www.thefreeimagehosting.com/U...0tinkerman.jpg

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Interesting, never seen the "tactical genius" bit before. This game never ceases to amaze me.
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