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Old 12-20-2007, 05:58 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #11
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All right, anyone noticed this?
No, it works well in the game.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:01 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #12
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From FIFA.Com

Many stoppages in play are entirely natural (e.g. throw-ins, goal kicks).
An allowance is to be made only when these delays are excessive.
The fourth offi cial indicates the minimum additional time decided by
the referee at the end of the fi nal minute of each period of play.
The announcement of the additional time does not indicate the exact
amount of time left in the match. The time may be increased if the
referee considers it appropriate but never reduced.
The referee shall not compensate for a timekeeping error during the
fi rst half by increasing or reducing the length of the second half.

Ibrahim, the whole wait for a goal kick thing is a bit dated, I watch plenty of games where the whistle is blown with 1 team on the attack.Best example recently is AC Milan v's Red Diamonds. The Japanese were on the attack,but took too long to get in the cross and the ref blew for time.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:03 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #13
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All right, anyone noticed this? In 95% of cases my stoppage time is never accurate. Is says +3mins, game goes for 4, it says 2mins, it goes 2:45.

Matches are mostly longer by at least 30s than what the stoppage time says. I don't know if it's deliberate or a bug, but please, fix that ASAP. Watch real life games. It's never like that, usually it's like 10s after stoppage time and game is over, heck, in most cases the game is done even before the stoppage time.
It NEVER EVER stops before stoppage time. Hence the announcement "There will be a MINIMUM of 2 minutes time allowed" at football stadiums. Often it goes on longer, generally until neither team are on the attack or if it's just exceeded stoppage time too much. There are some crazy examples in real life ... Let me tell you - Huddersfield Town Vs Brentford (I might as well tell you the story while I'm here!) Both teams were down to 10 men and Brentford were 2-1 up as we entered stoppage time. But then we (Town) scored an equalizer within the first couple of minutes of stoppage time and then a breath-taking winner at the very end of the 5 minutes ... but ... infact ... 8 minutes of stoppage time were played. And generally in football matches you get 30 seconds or so on top if someone's on the attack. It's often a case of when the referee checks his watch! FM portrays this extremely well - no need for a change.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:04 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #14
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Thing that annoys me is that if there is about 2 minutes added on the opposing team seem to score on about 91:50 or on about 93rd minute.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:06 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #15
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Originally posted by neil220779:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sky:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by SWaRFeGa:
Fouls in stoppage time? Mean more stoppage time?
Stoppage time should not be consistently exceeded like it is right now, where 90% of matches go 1-3 minutes over the added time. That's why teams do most of their worst time wasting DURING stoppage time rather than before it, because the 4th official would just add more.

The only exception is if there's an abnormally long stoppage during stoppage time, such as an injury or a scuffle. </BLOCKQUOTE>

1-3 minutes 90% of the time, you're joking right? Extra time is added if there is an injury, substitue, time wasting DURING stoppage time,the number held up by the 4th official is the MINIMUM to be added not an exact figure.

e.g. if there are 4 minutes to be added and the game is stopped for 1 minute due to an injury during stoppage time,then that 1 minute is added on making a total of 5.

I've noticed often a few more seconds are added and on the odd occassion up to 1 1/2 minutes. Very true to life in my opinion. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not joking, I noticed this excessive stoppage time in FM08 right from the start but never really deemed it as serious enough to start a thread about it. I don't remember it being this noticable in previous versions.

By the rulebook there is no problem with this. But in my games, on top of the 4th official's added time the ref almost ALWAYS gives 1 minute. I find that a bit unrealistic because most of the time there weren't any substitutions, injuries or any stoppage. It seems like the game is counting the time where the ball is put out of play. That is a BIT too strict and by-the-book IMO.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:06 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #16
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I have noticed myself that matches always over run. But the main problem with this for me is when the play is stopped - IRL if the ball goes out for a goal kick the whistle will follow within 10s of the kick being taken, in FM it usually comes just as you/the opposition are about the start an attack.
You're not managing in the lower leagues are ya? If so ... that's called lower league refereeing! We get a load of dodgy decisions down here ... if not ... that's just the way it is ... harsh but true!
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:07 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #17
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Thing that annoys me is that if there is about 2 minutes added on the opposing team seem to score on about 91:50 or on about 93rd minute.
This isn't due to a problem in the game ... it's a problem in YOUR defence ... these things happen in football and in FM I'm often nicking games late myself just as other teams sometimes do against me.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:10 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #18
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You won't be moaning when you score a dramatic late winner in this additional time I do assume you're moaning because a man kicked a ball into a goal when the man with the whistle should have ended the game.
Anyway, hate to sound like a top flight manager but - "these things even themselves out over the course of a season"
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:10 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #19
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ONly thing that bugs me is when they score in the 97th minute when there only supposed to be 4 added.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:11 PM   Stoppage time = bullshit Post #20
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I had 9 and a half minutes once.
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