retired_mikeals

Finally i make the conclusion that there is no hope of making a strong tactic for a midtable-team. A think it's nearly random the way the game plays and the efforts of making a tactic to make improve a team are all and absolutly in vain.
I have played about 15 new seasons between Blacburn Rovers and Celta de Vigo, and i have never pass through 10th-11th place...
I have bought the best players, download the best tactis, the best training methods, i have be patient with players and i try everything in the game and i have not success.
Can someone show me how to make a midteam to convert it in a good team?
Can someone post some tactic that often works?
IS necessary to always play short pass and slow?
Can't we play at high pace or attacking??
IS it the game only for big teams???

retired_flower115

I think it's important to realise that it takes a good season or so for a tactic to bed in, maybe don't sign as many players and concentrace on what Blackburn do well, High tempo, closing down, hard tackling, play players with good team work, stamina?

Maybe have flair players on the bench ready to come on in the second half to grab a goal.

retired_bingwey

well if u bought the best players then play with top league team tactic, but if your players arent good enough then play more defensive style away and more attacking home but use same formation

just change team mentality

retired_mikeals

my complaints are about haven't seen an improvement in the status of the team. You are saying if i have not enough quality in the team i can't play offensive style. Then i boughtgood players to make better results but the results are the same.
I sincerely think that the game don't allow to make an important improvement of a team. If you are a big one: chelsea, real madrid, barça, inter is easy to win. But if you are a midtable you have nothing to do: simply look seasons pass and standing in the same place. If you take a very low team you will go down till relegation. i would bet it.
PD: i love fm2007. I have playing cm-fm since 1994!

retired_janellewood86

I must have fluked my way to L2 with Vauxhall then, and other people who have managed in the lower leagues also fluked it.

To get to the top you can't play expansive football for two reasons - one, you won't be good enough and two the opposition will kick a long one straight down your neck and score on the break every time.

So you have to start by scrapping for results. And? How is that any different to any club trying to improve? To start with you need to do what is necessary to win. Then with the "quality" players you think you have you can play more expansively once you are playing against teams who will allow you to do so. Even the big clubs wouldn't play wide and very attacking against a side who harried them and attacked them. I know this because as a small side that's exactly what I do.

It's more than possible to get a mid-table team up to the top or a small team up through the leagues, you just have to play to the strengths of your players and make sure you don't play into the opposition's hands (not necessarily by doing the exact opposite of the opposition).

Tighten it up, hit teams on the counter attack and grind out results. This doesn't necessarily mean you play ugly football or win 1-0 every week, but you have to be prepared to do what is necessary when you can't play your preferred expansive style of football.

That goes for every team at every level.

retired_FaultyFate

Actually, I find that seemingly defensive or counter-attacking setup is often more attacking than "attacking" one.

Btw, tempo has nothing to do with how fast players run. It determines how fast they should make decision. No midteam can afford it to full extent.

Midtable team's first priority imo should be to "hide" their weak sides and use strong ones to full extend.

So I am with Millie here - start from defensive-counter football to get results, buy good young players that would fit to your "ideal" football (you value fast football - buy youngsters with promising physical, decision and creativity stats), one or two per transfer window, slowly get rid of players that are not first team and won't fit your ideal football. The aim is to finish the first couple seasons above predictions, get players to understand each other and built base for the future.

Following this principles and using tactic similar to wwfan's "counter" I was able to win Seria A with Sampdoria in the fourth season and won it 3 times in a row after that along with CL etc. With West Ham I won EPL in the 3rd season, finished 2nd in the next season and left to Milan. However, after I left, WH made CL final, finished 2nd in EPL, and are still among title countenders in the current (2011-2012) season without significant squad change, which tells me I did a pretty good job there. So I do not think it's extremely difficult to convert midtable team into top one. You just have to be patient and follow a line you have chosen.

JeffRogers

i'm with millie on this 1! if its not working you need to do the things that will help you to win, even if it is ugly! you cant expect to win playing like arsenal when your not arsenal!

for instance, lowering your width can turn out to be a revelation! sure you may not be making many chances but your wont be giving any chances away too and after a few games of not conceding your team may start to nick 1-0s all over the place even against top team! if your still giving away too many chances then push your d-line up or down depending on what its on atm!

ive finished 2nd with pompey, 4th with west ham, 6th with wigan, 4th with newcastle (2 points from winning it!), 5th 1st season in prem with west brom. all in the first season so it is possible! gl :thup:

retired_mikeals

for what i'm reading there is a piece of hope..
so i will take Celta de Vigo at Second Division (palying with Weegie Update). It supossed to be the best team in the division 'cos they came from relegation and i'm going to play deffensively: This means that i'm gonna concedeed a few goals and my goal attempts will be better than if i was playing at attack...
Is a formation recommended??? 4-4-2 5-3-2 (i would like to play 3-5-2)


PS: sorry my poor english.

retired_cycleman8

I won the league with Gimnastica with players like Carson, O'Shea and Eddie Johnson. So there is a tactic that works for midtable teams...

retired_mikeals

i must ask you for evidences. tactic?coaches?screenshots?