retired_elpata

Nope not done anything at all. But remember I have different players from you, this is built for the starting line up I use. So its not a surprise it differes for you, just like any other tactic will. The only thing I do is praise players if they play well or if the media asks me. If the media ask me I always say ' He's enjoying his football I hope it continues' I always use that.

Praising players is a big part of the game and keeps morale up.

I thought you was gonna start and see how you got on anyways creating your own? Kinda pointless me carrying on if you not

retired_FaultyFate

Thanks Cleon!

Actually, the most interesting stat is Dean Ashton shots on goal. In away game against Watford he made 7 shots, 5 on target. Home game against Chelsea (stronger team) - 8 and 8, respectively. Home game against City (who presumably played defensively) 3 shots, 1 on target. So, clearly Chelsea and Watford allowed you to setup counter attack better and hence Ashton had better chances, whilst City did not give your attacking players much space.

Btw, looking at Tevez stats I would say he has not been exactly following your instructions He did not run with ball often, did not pass much, and, given he was asked to run forward often, did not shoot much as well. Oh, and how did it happen he got 2 yellow cards against Chelsea whilst he did not foul once? Arguing with referee?

retired_FaultyFate

Hammer,

It's not a surprise the tactic is shoking for you, not only because of players. Cleon has played the tactic from the beginning and players got used to it through friendlies etc. You switched to it from some other tactic, which could be completely different hence requires time to adopt.

retired_elpata

Plus Ashton had an off game, it was just one of them games where he looked poor all match. But that was due to the support play from Tevez been poor. Without the supply he cannot do anything he just becomes someone stuck up top with nothing to do.

Tevez is a nightmare player to have, he's so mardy . He's not settled into the area apparantly and wants to move to a bigger club. Thats why hes not perfomring too well atm. I could play Lima instead and he's already scored 2 goals in 2 games, but I want Tevez to settle and then he should be lethal.

And yes he argues too much

retired_elpata

Also a very good point. Plus I think he brought in a lot more first teamers than I did, so they need longer to settle too. I think I only got 3 or 4 first teamers. My team still doesn't have a good understanding yet either

retired_Cat1123

Nope not done anything at all. But remember I have different players from you, this is built for the starting line up I use. So its not a surprise it differes for you, just like any other tactic will. The only thing I do is praise players if they play well or if the media asks me. If the media ask me I always say ' He's enjoying his football I hope it continues' I always use that.

Praising players is a big part of the game and keeps morale up.

I thought you was gonna start and see how you got on anyways creating your own? Kinda pointless me carrying on if you not </BLOCKQUOTE>

TBH mate that was the plan, but because my start got knocked back and i saw just how well you were doing, i was like a kid at Xmas and had to give it a go.

I only have two different players than you in my starting 11 and that is Jarque at the back instead of Davies and i have Barnetta on the right instead of Bowyer.

The tactic looks quite strong defensively, but in an attacking sense i really cannot see where the goals will come from?.

I just find it strange that you are winning game after game, whilst we are struggling, when you are not doing anything different?.

You must admit it's a bit odd?.

retired_FaultyFate

In my WH game he wanted to go all the way through the first season and did not perform consistently. So I let him go after the first season. But I got around 50 millions for him and that gave me plenty of money to buy a few players to improve my squad significantly. So I would say sell him, bring a good AMC instead, and spare what left on other positions you think you want to improve. Though the game will be over for you then since nobody would be able to beat you

retired_elpata

Nope not done anything at all. But remember I have different players from you, this is built for the starting line up I use. So its not a surprise it differes for you, just like any other tactic will. The only thing I do is praise players if they play well or if the media asks me. If the media ask me I always say ' He's enjoying his football I hope it continues' I always use that.

Praising players is a big part of the game and keeps morale up.

I thought you was gonna start and see how you got on anyways creating your own? Kinda pointless me carrying on if you not </BLOCKQUOTE>

TBH mate that was the plan, but because my start got knocked back and i saw just how well you were doing, i was like a kid at Xmas and had to give it a go.

I only have two different players than you in my starting 11 and that is Jarque at the back instead of Davies and i have Barnetta on the right instead of Bowyer.

The tactic looks quite strong defensively, but in an attacking sense i really cannot see where the goals will come from?.

I just find it strange that you are winning game after game, whilst we are struggling, when you are not doing anything different?.

You must admit it's a bit odd?. </BLOCKQUOTE>

No why is it odd? I don't mean this is a bad way but you don't fully know what you are doing or understand how the game works. I think thats the problem.

You have 2 different players form me in the starting line up, but thats 2 different players who need to settle in.

The goals will come from Ashton I already said that, he's the main source of goals. Anyone else scoring is a bonus. But I choose this formation for a reason and that was to get the most of out Ashton as I could. Plus the lone strikers is far too effective in 07 and always has been. Hopefully he will bag me 40+ goals if he stays fit and on form.

So when you look at it I am doing a lot different from you, I used all friendlies to get players used to settling in. My first games of the season will be different from you, meaning my players will act different due to differences in morale. I got off to a good start with a 0-0 against Liverpool, if id lost that then things might have been very different. Your first game was against Chelsea, get a bad result there and morale will drop and you could be in trouble.

I'm not constantly winning either, I got put out of cup games so far and Man U hammered me 4-1 in the league cup and showed what an ordinary side I can be.

Plus I don't need to score many if I keep keeping clean sheets. I'm solid at the back so I know 1 goal will be enough to win the game more often than not. But atm I'm scoring more than 1 a game anwyays.

retired_elpata

In my WH game he wanted to go all the way through the first season and did not perform consistently. So I let him go after the first season. But I got around 50 millions for him and that gave me plenty of money to buy a few players to improve my squad significantly. So I would say sell him, bring a good AMC instead, and spare what left on other positions you think you want to improve. Though the game will be over for you then since nobody would be able to beat you </BLOCKQUOTE>

Id have done that if I was sticking at this game but I only did it as a favour for hammer1000. If I carry on I'll use Lima instead and use Tevez as my back up

retired_lanebo

It is, any side from the bottom to the middle can do well playing like this. In fact even if you have the best players in the league this still can be lethal. But I found this only true in English football, on the continent its a bit different.

The template I worked from had man marking ticked, so I had to change it.

Sure give me 5 minutes and i'll post some.

Against weaker opposition if I stick to my guns they tend to change mentality towards me and will go more attacking. </BLOCKQUOTE>


Cleon, I don´t want you to build a tactic for me, but how would you set your team instructions for a top four side? I mean, I´m not sure if the counter-attacking style is the better way to go for a world class side.