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Old 08-30-2007, 10:52 AM   Playmaker and team style Post #11
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Has anyone ever tried using someone like Scholes as a playmaker but dropping him deep into the DMC position?

When he plays for Man U he often takes the ball off then center backs and dictates play from there. May have to try this
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:43 AM   Playmaker and team style Post #12
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Originally posted by lyw_85:
Cleon, I find that when I am playing a direct and quick style, my possession percentage is low. Do you get this too?
Usually anywhere between 47%-60%. But it makes sense that you would have less possession as you are attemtping to move the ball faster from a to b. If you want to create a possession game you need a short passing slow game.

bRAzIL - Yes I've done this numerous times, I think I mentioned it to Dayle earlier in the week in one of his threads.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:47 AM   Playmaker and team style Post #13
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Yeah. I have'nt tried it yet.... having a galaxy's full of other problems!
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:33 PM   Playmaker and team style Post #14
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If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:55 PM   Playmaker and team style Post #15
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If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
Yes, and also a few other settings (run with ball, forward runs, closing down, etc.)

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Has anyone ever tried using someone like Scholes as a playmaker but dropping him deep into the DMC position?

When he plays for Man U he often takes the ball off then center backs and dictates play from there. May have to try this
I have done it with Xavi. Works amazing against AI teams who don't have exellent players in the middle. However, when AI team is very strong, Xavi is not the best option as DMC since his defensive skills (marking, tackling, jumping, heading) are rather weak. But since I am Milan, I use Pirlo or Gattuso then and problem solved
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<BLOCKQUOTE>If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
Yes, and also a few other settings (run with ball, forward runs, closing down, etc.)

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Has anyone ever tried using someone like Scholes as a playmaker but dropping him deep into the DMC position?

When he plays for Man U he often takes the ball off then center backs and dictates play from there. May have to try this
I have done it with Xavi. Works amazing against AI teams who don't have exellent players in the middle. However, when AI team is very strong, Xavi is not the best option as DMC since his defensive skills (marking, tackling, jumping, heading) are rather weak. But since I am Milan, I use Pirlo or Gattuso then and problem solved </BLOCKQUOTE>

Good thats what i thought just wanted it clarified. Thanks
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If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
You can have DMC's on other mentalities other than defensive. It just depends where abouts you want them to start breaking play up from. I'm currently using 2 DMC's with very high mentalities so they support my attacks, however they have barrows to ensure they still get back into position.
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Using a DMC as playmaker is outstanding, especially with short-passing defenders. They win the ball and he is always there to recieve the ball straight from defence. Set the playmakers passing as direct and he will produce passes that soon become goals.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:26 PM   Playmaker and team style Post #19
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arsenal71:
If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
You can have DMC's on other mentalities other than defensive. It just depends where abouts you want them to start breaking play up from. I'm currently using 2 DMC's with very high mentalities so they support my attacks, however they have barrows to ensure they still get back into position. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Im thinking on the lines od berty and cesc for the arsenal. cesc although goes forward lays quite deep and therefore prob would have normal mentality with forward runs ofter/mixed RWS mixed also. Berty sits and thats pretty much all he does so i would have him on defensive mentality with RWB rare FR rare also.

Is this how you would see it? Im using a tweeked version of wwfans how too set and i know that he has them on high mentality in the conrol and attact versions obviously this is because you want them going forward. You would probably not play bery in these setups as he is more defensive so another option would be required eg diaby/rosicky/hleb in the middle with cesc.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arsenal71:
If you are playing the 442 with 2 mc's to make the mcd become the dmc you would have to change his mentality to defensive wouldnt you? the same if you wanted to make the other mc an mca?
You can have DMC's on other mentalities other than defensive. It just depends where abouts you want them to start breaking play up from. I'm currently using 2 DMC's with very high mentalities so they support my attacks, however they have barrows to ensure they still get back into position. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Im thinking on the lines od berty and cesc for the arsenal. cesc although goes forward lays quite deep and therefore prob would have normal mentality with forward runs ofter/mixed RWS mixed also. Berty sits and thats pretty much all he does so i would have him on defensive mentality with RWB rare FR rare also.

Is this how you would see it? Im using a tweeked version of wwfans how too set and i know that he has them on high mentality in the conrol and attact versions obviously this is because you want them going forward. You would probably not play bery in these setups as he is more defensive so another option would be required eg diaby/rosicky/hleb in the middle with cesc. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes I think for how you want to play the current settings are fine that you use. Although if you felt the need to try something different you always got other options.
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