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Hello folks, it looks as though my internet has been fixed finally, for the foreseeable future anyway.
This means i can get cracking with my Liverpool 70's - 80's experiment.
I did start one of these quite a while back but due to idiotic workmen cutting my internet cable outside, i lost my connection for a couple of months. The old thread lay dormant for a while until it was hijacked by someone who thought i had just lost interest. Not so.
You may ask why i'm starting a new one, why not revive the old one? Well, like i said, it's been hijacked, and, it's 2 pages long and i start a new game half way through it, then it all gets a bit confusing with me piddling around with altered tactics and what-not. I thought I would just start a fresh, armed with the knowledge gained from the first attempt.
THE TACTIC
Obviously, the tactic I'm going to use will be an attempt to mirror the legendary Liverpool side of the 70's and 80's who swept all before them, at home and on the continent, playing a purely possession-based playing style;
Flat 4-4-2 with short farrows on the L/RMF
Mentality erring slightly on the defensive,
Holding a deep defensive line,
Very short, patient passing (both sliders right down at the bottom),
Man Marking,
Target man supplied to feet - this being the way Crouch likes it, and the way they played.
Counter Attack and Use Play maker both ticked.
I have created 3 separate tactics; the original as mentioned above, a slightly more attack-minded one for those times when sitting back is going nowhere (it's just a copy of the original with each players mentality "up" a couple of notches, more forward runs/crosses etc but in keeping with the original idea), and a "Backs to the wall" one with all mentality, forward runs/crosses etc down to the bottom - removing the farrows from the L/RMF and adding barrows to the 2 CMF.
I will also use a Libero CB (Agger) to mimic Hansen's occasional forays upfield - I did this in the first experiment to great effect.
I will post a screenie of the team insructions as well as Agger's, I realize I should have it on this page but I forgot to go to imageshack first so no worries.
TRAINING
I have made 8 different training schedules; GK, CB, FB, DMF, CMF, AMF (wingers use this one too), CF, ST.
The most important training area is tactics and this is quite high throughout, in fact it's maxed on some schedules - GK being one as it increases so many attributes.
Another one which is quite high throughout is (ironically due to this being a rather defensive Tactic) Attack training, as this increases Passing (THE most important attribute in the game) and Creativity.
I can post screenines of schedules on request or if need be.
AIMS
Well, as in the first experiment, I just want to know if this works if it's done properly (with dedication).
The reason being is that in FM07 we seem to be forever changing our tactics to suit the opposition (well, yeah! say many) but this isn't the case IRL, especially for the big teams who play their own style of football regardless of the opponent, only making the necessary arrangements to deal with a Kaka or Gerrard.
And this is true, Sir Alex Ferguson (love him or hate him) has won a bucket load of trophies in his managerial career playing the same style of football; Bill Shankly (Fergie's hero, believe it or not), Bob Paisley and, to a lesser degree Joe Fagan did so with Liverpool - they all had their own Philosophy of the game and stuck to their guns with remarkable success. As has Fabio Capello, Roberto Mancini, Rafa Benitez, the list goes on...
But in FM07 we have to chop and change; Sit back/push up; Play short/play long; Deep defence/high defence; after a while it gets irritating so i want to pick a style, develop it, stick with it and hopefully it will bear fruit.
UPDATES
I will update at the end of each in-game month with a progress report, I will also show points of interesr, matches with rival clubs etc, the league table month by month. I will inform of my teams possession stats for matches which, soon, should be fairly high.
I don't plan to go into as much detail as last time as, if we're being honest, the whole thing did get a little tedious (unutterably boring?) but I will obviously provide any screenies on request.
I'll not go into much detail as the Premier League is the bread and butter.
It's 1/08/06 and my friendlies are done. No defeats, good performances and DOMINATED Milan in a friendly cup final at Anfield.
(A) Standard W 2-0
(A) Sunderland W 2-0
(A) Crewe W 6-1
(H) Bremen D 1-1 (semi final - through 4-3 on penalties)
(H) Milan D 0-0 (final - won 4-3 on penalties)
(A) Mainz W 2-0
NOTE:
In that match versus Milan we completely out-played a full-strength Milan side only to be frustrated by the outstanding Dida in nets, he was the man of the match, if not for him we'd have won by miles...
PS - we use a global mentality and in doing so, some of our build-up play is fantastic.
PPS - My ass man handles team talks so as not to interfere with my tactics.
Originally posted by Starr_Man5: END OF FRIENDLIES
I'll not go into much detail as the Premier League is the bread and butter.
It's 1/08/06 and my friendlies are done. No defeats, good performances and DOMINATED Milan in a friendly cup final at Anfield.
(A) Standard W 2-0
(A) Sunderland W 2-0
(A) Crewe W 6-1
(H) Bremen D 1-1 (semi final - through 4-3 on penalties)
(H) Milan D 0-0 (final - won 4-3 on penalties)
(A) Mainz W 2-0
NOTE:
In that match versus Milan we completely out-played a full-strength Milan side only to be frustrated by the outstanding Dida in nets, he was the man of the match, if not for him we'd have won by miles...
PS - we use a global mentality and in doing so, some of our build-up play is fantastic.
PPS - My ass man handles team talks so as not to interfere with my tactics.
Nice one starr_Man5, you're right you did completely dominate Milan! Any chance of putting up screenies of player instructions too as you develop your three or four tactics?
Nice one mate, as I'm a die hard Liverpool supporter I like the idea of try replicate the way our teams of the late 70's - early 80's played, so even tho' I haven't posted a lot on this forum but I'll be keeping a close eye on your experiment.
But the only thing that I think is a hurle, is trying to play this way against a AI that is consistantly changing it's tactics. See back in the 70's - 80's and even at the present with mid - lower table clubs, your Fulhams, Charltons and Middlesbrough, tactics don't change - they pretty much play a 4-4-2 on the counter all the time. However the AI reguarly changes tactics and formation, during the game it might change tatics/formation 3-4 times, that doesn't happen on a regulare basis IRL.
That's just my opinion, a you'll proably prove me wrong. So best of luck with your experiement and I hope you don't have any proablems with your internet like last time.
@BOB123456 - Yes, I will get them up for you, i'm not sure how to cut and paste them all together to save time (i'm not computer "smart") so is there any specific ones you'd like? Agger's is a cert as he's the exception to both defensive settings and global mentality, he's the Libero with FREE ROLE ticked (Trust me, it works great).
@KAZ_1983 - That is exactly my point, I'm trying to develop a tactic which will enable me to play a "Style" rather than having to continually react to what the AI is doing. Know what I mean? I want my team so well-drilled in this possession game that I can be fairly comfortable sending them out to all but the toughest of opponents, safe in the knowledge we will dominate most games (See "The Milan Match" again ).
Also, at the end of August I will post an end of transfer window update with my squad and staff ins and outs. I actually feel I already have a completed squad at the min but you never know with dozy Chairman - The daft fool went and spent a fortune on EDU the last time, on deadline day.
Yes DEFINATELY the libero's instructions as this is something I'm very interested in. In terms of the other instructions, I have a simple view. If you have managed/do manage to create a possession focused tactic that successfully imposes itself on the opposition and worries less about tweaking and deep/push up/quick/slow/direct/short/narrow/wide/offside/counter attac etc then that would be absolutely amazing and you should just put everything up! I'm quite excited on your behalf already!
Originally posted by Kaz_1983...:
Nice one mate, as I'm a die hard Liverpool supporter I like the idea of try replicate the way our teams of the late 70's - early 80's played, so even tho' I haven't posted a lot on this forum but I'll be keeping a close eye on your experiment.
But the only thing that I think is a hurle, is trying to play this way against a AI that is consistantly changing it's tactics. See back in the 70's - 80's and even at the present with mid - lower table clubs, your Fulhams, Charltons and Middlesbrough, tactics don't change - they pretty much play a 4-4-2 on the counter all the time. However the AI reguarly changes tactics and formation, during the game it might change tatics/formation 3-4 times, that doesn't happen on a regulare basis IRL.
That's just my opinion, a you'll proably prove me wrong. So best of luck with your experiement and I hope you don't have any proablems with your internet like last time.
I know this is a long while ago but Argentina played about four formtions a game.
Originally posted by danny.harv:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Kaz_1983...:
Nice one mate, as I'm a die hard Liverpool supporter I like the idea of try replicate the way our teams of the late 70's - early 80's played, so even tho' I haven't posted a lot on this forum but I'll be keeping a close eye on your experiment.
But the only thing that I think is a hurle, is trying to play this way against a AI that is consistantly changing it's tactics. See back in the 70's - 80's and even at the present with mid - lower table clubs, your Fulhams, Charltons and Middlesbrough, tactics don't change - they pretty much play a 4-4-2 on the counter all the time. However the AI reguarly changes tactics and formation, during the game it might change tatics/formation 3-4 times, that doesn't happen on a regulare basis IRL.
That's just my opinion, a you'll proably prove me wrong. So best of luck with your experiement and I hope you don't have any proablems with your internet like last time.
I know this is a long while ago but Argentina played about four formtions a game. </BLOCKQUOTE>
The Liverpool Experiment, version 2. 
I'm quite excited on your behalf already!
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