retired_BrownVanilla

Good thread :thup: didn't see the last one but will keep a keen eye on this one a it looks very interesting.


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JeffRogers

dont want to step on anyones toes but i had a great tac for juve where it was basically a keep possession, build from the back tactic that looked great to watch and reminded me of the old liverpool team!

basically its down to mentality, passing and tempo!

i had passing and tempo set to 2 or 3 and mentality set to around 8! (no individual mentalities!) this had the effect of lots of passing around my defense and when the ball was passed to the midfielders they didnt automatically turn and go on the offensive but were more than happy to pass the ball back to a defender if he was being pressured! this along with a pushed up defensive line and width set to often made the game a dream to watch and had me comfortably mixing it with the best around europe usually hammering lots of top teams by big scores!

unfortunately i lost the tactic just when i was thinking of posting it in here when my pc had to be rebooted from new due to corruption and i couldnt even save the file b4 i did it, due to windows not starting! so i cant give any more info than ive given but i think ive remembered the main points!

whether it will work in the prem is another matter though as the game seems to have presets for teams whereas certain formations and tactics simply wont work for any given team due to it not being applicable to said team! like in '06 with the width rating in the editor! if you set your team to that width setting your team became superb 'overnight' automatically! but thats another story!

anyway goodluck :thup:

if you want to try my settings feel free!

retired_Balanchinegal

The two "important" ones... (purely on the grounds of them both being CB's on totally different settings).

Carragher

Agger

I really hope they work before I go any further, you know imageshack!!

Agger's mentality remains the same Global Mentality I have for the entire team (except CF's) but as you can see he has more creative freedom (Carragher has none), He's the only Defender with passing at "Mixed" (the rest of the team is at "1" (bottom)), his closing down is less than the others to encourage him to find space, he also has a free role as well as more FW runs and Crosses than Carragher.
This is all really to encourage him to make the odd foray upfield, with his decisions attribute (17) helping him to judge the best time and not keep on leaving a great chasm in the defensive line, it actually works really well and you can see the difference in the 2 CB's for the whole match, Agger is like a coiled spring ready to go while Carragher holds his ground...

Just thought i would explain my own thought process on it there...

retired_nickgiardina

I know this is a long while ago but Argentina played about four formtions a game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, but I was more refering to less technical sides these days, i.e. any team bar the top four.

KryptonSean

What exactly do you mean by "Libero"?

Every one wants to play Brazil style or Arsenal style football and win, but no-one's found a beautiful football tactic yet.

retired_Balanchinegal

I'm not exactly sure where the word "Libero" comes from but at an educated guess I'd say it's derived from "Liberal" - A libero CB would often make runs from Defence to aid an attck - he would/will bring the ball forward right into midfield and start moves / be part of them, as apposed to your Standard Carragher or Terry who will remain rigidly in Defence.
If you've ever played Pro Evo you'll know some CB's have a "Reaction" star - Lucio of B. Munich is one who springs to mind - you will often have to make special dispensation for these to cover their occasional forays upfield, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about.
In FM07 we don't have a "Reaction" star so I've set Agger's individual instructions to encourage such forward movement and left his own concentration and decisions attributes (as explained before) to judge when best to come forward.
Agger is an excellent choice for such role, both in the game and real life (he's already been likened to a young Alan Hansen) as he has fairly good attacking qualities in comparison to Carragher (who has virtually none).

retired_roshawnda82

Very very interesting....! I may have a dabble with the libero myself, although I'd be generally more confident in using one if FM07 wasn't so.....eratic at the best of times.

Keen for some more posting updates re results, tweaks and a finalised tactic set!

retired_Balanchinegal

Very very interesting....! I may have a dabble with the libero myself, although I'd be generally more confident in using one if FM07 wasn't so.....eratic at the best of times.

Keen for some more posting updates re results, tweaks and a finalised tactic set! </BLOCKQUOTE>

With pleasure bob, just played Chelsea in the Shield, won 3-1 (3 perfect counter-attack goals) then inexplicably lost the 1st league game of the season 1-0 away to WATFORD!!!

More info soon...

(It's worth noting that as I was losing away to Watford, Man Ure lost away to Sheffield Utd and Chelsea lost away to Portsmouth)

retired_roshawnda82

Oh dear... that's FM07 for you!! lol. Although we should at least make some attempts to improve instead of choosing the easy option and blaming the game I guess. Bet it was King that scored??

retired_Balanchinegal

After losing 0-1 away to Watford (Yes it was King) we went on to lose 0-2 away at Spurs and then 0-1 at home against Portsmouth.
So I resigned in sheer frustration at the game.

It just all seemed very odd, we were creating loads of chances but missing them. And it was always those "He's got his head in his hands/It was a sitter and he knows it!" moments where he really should have scored.
I wanted to quit after the Spurs match but thought I'd give it one more chance but it just didn't seem real, I've never had that bad a start even though this is actually the MOST effort I've put into it, that really pi55ed me off.

The truth is I simply don't know what I'm doing, being honest I don't understand the game enough to try something like this. I don't know why I bothered really, the game is just too mathematically complex but then completely Vague and Random with it. How can I dominate and outplay both AC Milan and Chelsea then immediately lose against Watford, Spurs (who were missing Robinson, Lennon, Berbatov and Keane to name a few) and Portsmouth, all without scoring a goal, missing several OPEN NETS and a hat full of other chances when, as the commentary put it "You would've put your money on him scoring that!"

Of course, the game didn't cheat, I'm not saying that so don't assume that. I'm saying that the game is just too difficult for me, I simply don't understand it and thats the truth.
Why couldn't my ass man give me any idea why we lost? why we conceded the goals? why we never scored? Why doesn't he give his thoughts on our tactics when his tactical training and tactical knowledge are both 20???
Why why why why, with no answers...

I'm sorry guys, I really wanted to do this, I did try but because I don't know WHY it failed I don't see the point in continuing..