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Old 03-12-2007, 05:30 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #31
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Got to disagree there, no offence. Fortunately it mirrors real life. No Irish (be it Northern or Republic) team is ever going to win a European title, nor a Welsh one for that matter.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:18 AM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #32
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Of course that post could be taken as no Irish team is ever going to win a European title, nor a Welsh title for that matter.

Which is just as valid
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:11 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #33
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Andy. How many seasons did you give it a go with in Europe? and what competitions were you enetered into?

I know that 1 of the qualifying stages for 1 of the European competitions is actually played at the end of the old season rather than the beginning of the new one.

How did you find the finance model in N.Ireland?
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:14 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #34
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Of course that post could be taken as no Irish team is ever going to win a European title, nor a Welsh title for that matter.

Which is just as valid
Didn't Newport Co get to the Qtrs of the UEFA Cup, (or equivelant), a few years back with Aldridge et al?

They were within the Welsh structure then i Think.

Oh and by a few years back, I mean about 25ish years .
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:28 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #35
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Cardiff got to the quarters or semis of the CWC way back when
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:55 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #36
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I can imagine it is very very very very very hard, but I wouldn't think that it is impossible to get through the first legs.

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The first Luxembourg side to win a European Cup/Champions League tie in 42 years! Remarkably they lost 0-1 at home to Bosnian side NK Zrinjski Mostar but won 4-0 away after extra time!
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09-08-2004 Shelbourne

The Irish champions (2-3 down from the first leg) beat Hajduk Split 2-0 to become the first Irish side to reach round 3 of the Champions League qualifying
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02-08-2004 Glentoran

The N.Irish side's 2-1 win in Finland against Allianssi in the UEFA Cup first round was their first victory in Europe in 23 years
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21-06-2004 Cork City

Irish side defeated Malmo FF by 3 goals to one in the first leg of the Intertoto Cup 1st round
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28-06-2004 Cork City

The Irish side do it again, winning 1-0 in Malmo to knock the Swedish side out of the InterToto Cup
Granted there aren't many instances I can find, but it should be at least possible to win the early rounds.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:10 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #37
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Cardiff got to the quarters or semis of the CWC way back when
And Wrexham did it in the late 70's, losing to Anderlecht who went on to win it. I also remember seeing us play against Porto and Roma in the same season (beating Porto over two legs) - the season after Roma had lost to Liverpool in the "crazy-legs penalties" final, when a certain Swedish ex-England manager was their manager.

*Breaks into verse of "Memories" and wipes the tears from his eyes as he contemplates the possibility of non-league footy next season*
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:39 AM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #38
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Andy. How many seasons did you give it a go with in Europe? and what competitions were you enetered into?

I know that 1 of the qualifying stages for 1 of the European competitions is actually played at the end of the old season rather than the beginning of the new one.

How did you find the finance model in N.Ireland?
Jimbo, my memory is already hazy; I have little time to play at the mo and when I do I'm bobbling around nowhere with Fisher.

All the examples you point out involve clubs which are well into their domestic seasons when the Euro qualifiers come around. As I said in my main gripe, in N. Ireland the players have JUST returned from holiday (in previous versions the manager could alter the return date but not in FM07). for me, that's the nub of the problem. The financial model is 'modest' but I'm sure it's realistic and I have no gripe with that.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:37 AM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #39
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All the examples you point out involve clubs which are well into their domestic seasons when the Euro qualifiers come around.
Glentoran are in N.Ireland .
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:26 PM   Getting Pi55ed in Northern Ireland Post #40
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I'm at the start of my 2010/11 season at the moment.

A look at the results of the AI managed N.Irish teams competing in Europe, it should shed some light on the subject.

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2006/07. Linfield. 1st Rnd Qual. Lost 5-1 on aggregate to NK Gorica of Slovenia.
2007/08. Portadown. 1st Qual Rnd. Won 4-2 on aggregate against Dinamo Tbilisi of Georgia.
2007/08. Portadown. 2nd Qual Rnd. Lost 4-2 on aggregate to Dinamo Kiev of Ukraine.
2008/09. Portadown. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 4-0 on aggregate to FK Modrica Maxima of Boznia & Herz.
2009/10. Linfield. 1st Qual Rnd. Won 4-3 on aggregate against APOEL Nicosia of Cyprus.
2009/10. Linfield. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 3-1 on aggregate to Celtic of Scotland.
20010/11. Linfield. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 3-2 on aggregate to AMO Apollon Limassol of Cyprus.
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2006/07. Portadown. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 4-0 on aggregate to Lokomotiv (Sofia) of Bulgaria.
2007/08. Linfield. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 5-1 on aggregate to ZTE of Hungary.
2008/09. Linfield. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 4-3 on aggregate to FK Ventspils of Latvia.
2009/10. Glentoran. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 6-2 on aggregate to Maccabi Tel-Aviv of Israel.
2010/11. Glentoran. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 5-2 on aggregate to MFK Ruzomberok of Slovakia.
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UEFA Cup 2.

2006/07. Glentoran. 1st Rnd Qual. Won 5-0 on aggregate against Atvidabergs FF of Sweden.
2006/07. Glentoran. 2nd Rnd Qual. Lost 3-1 on aggregate to Hapoel Tel-Aviv of Israel.
2007/08. Lisburn Distillery. 1st Rnd Qual. Lost 5-2 on aggregate to APOEL Nicosia of Cyprus.
2008/09. Armagh City. 1st Rnd Qual. Lost 5-2 on aggregate to FK Smederevo of Serbia.
2009/10. Lisburn Distillery. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 4-1 on aggregate to Hibernian of Scotland.
2010/11. Ballymena Utd. 1st Qual Rnd. Lost 4-2 on aggregate to AS Omonoia Nicosia of Cyprus.
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2006/07. Dungannon. 1st Rnd. Lost 3-1 on aggregate to FK Pobda Prilep of FYR of Macedonia.
2007/08. Glentoran. 1st Rnd. Won 3-1 on aggregate against FK Qarabag Aqdam of Azerbaijan.
2007/08. Glentoran. 2nd Rnd. Lost 4-2 on aggregate to Aberdeen of Scotland.
2008/09. Lisburn Distillery. 1st Rnd. Drew 3-3 on aggregate (aet) with FK Jurmala of Latvia. Lost on penalties.
2009/10. Portadown. 1st Rnd. Lost 5-2 on aggregate to FC Honka of Finland.
2010/11. Portadown. 1st Rnd. Won 5-2 on aggregate against Hibernians FC of Malta.
2010/11. Portadown. 2nd Round. Lost 5-2 on aggregate to Lokomotiv (Sofia) of Bulgaria.
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