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After readin the Peas 'Dorchester' post, I decided to think (big thing!) about the rules regarding some 'scout-only signings'.
Surely, were I the manager of non-league AFC Wimbledon (or wherever, first English non league club I could think of...) I would be browsing the premiership reserves and youth lists looking for potential future players, and/or loanees and making the relative scout visits and enquirys?
Consider Oxford Utd.. Where do you think they got ***** **** on loan from? Man Utd. thats who. How? They had a look at the reserve team and thought 'he's good'
Without being fully clued up on the intricacies of all the LLaMa rules, surely the answer is that the same rule applies for all signings? As in, if you are scouring the reserves of the larger leagues, you still use your scouts to inform you on any potential additions to your squad?
Sticking my neck out, that's the way I've always played it....
I send my scouts out within a sensible and realistic region in relation to whatever team I'm playing as, and try to find the best players I can.
I cant say I succeed in getting premiership reserve players though
Originally posted by kovalenkov:
Stop seeking loopholes and either conform to LLaMa way of play or go away.
Having long been a lurker here, I ONLY asked a question which I feel is fair enough. Your uncompromising attitude surprises me to be honest, since I know full well that these people do so, since I met Stuart Pearce, manager of Didcot Town FC, who confirmed to me that he does indeed scour nearby Swindon, Reading, Oxford and Wycombe for Reserve team and youth team players either nearing contract renewal or for loans.
If, and only if your scouts turn them up, their fair game.
Realism? Woking as an example, over the past few years have picked up an Iraqi keeper and a Jock forward as Spurs rejects, a couple of players from SPL clubs and a few Championship sides rejects.
Wombledon loaning/signing Premiership reserves? They nicked our aforementioned Jock forward, so it's more like the Conference. No need for the player naming either, idiot.
I'd say simply browsing through the squad lists and hand-picking players is a no-no. However, sending your scout to look at reserve or youth games and then trying to loan/sign the players he reports on seems fine.
Originally posted by Fids: If, and only if your scouts turn them up, their fair game.
Realism? Woking as an example, over the past few years have picked up an Iraqi keeper and a Jock forward as Spurs rejects, a couple of players from SPL clubs and a few Championship sides rejects.
Wombledon loaning/signing Premiership reserves? They nicked our aforementioned Jock forward, so it's more like the Conference. No need for the player naming either, idiot.
FFS, I'm not a total arse, manager naming? Since when was manager naming not allowed? And what does it matter, if you can't SIGN A MANAGER YOU STUPID IDIOT
Calm down, illicit-booze-bloke. No need for that. (You did name a player, btw, in your first post).
I'd say that letting your scout look at a team (not hand picking players) a division or two above you and hoping a player he likes gets released that you can go for is OK. It is somewhere you have to let your conscience be your guide though.
Personally, I prefer to let my scout look around - he does a fair job of finding the sorts of players you're looking for, IMO, and you can easily filter his list for potential contract expiry.
What Julian said, basically. More often than not (not at the moment as I'm playing in the Republic of Ireland) my scouts will find players from a league or two higher which is fair game for me to chase. As for players from the Premiership - well, in real life it does happen now and again (like the player you named) but these are the exceptions rather than the rule. Hence the need for our guidelines about scouting restrictions. We have to make it realistic at the end of the day.
As for real life examples - it is actually much more likely you'll have managers from the basement leagues ringing around all the top clubs to see if they've got any players (for specific positions) available to take on loan, rather than the basement manager asking for specific players (not so much when you are in, say the Championship, then you are much more likely to chase individual players).
If you see in the news that Manure and X have parted company, theoretically you could send scouty to look him over.
What you wouldn't do is sign him before scouty has done the business.
Signing of premiership rejects? 
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