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Old 11-19-2006, 09:19 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #101
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There are so many factors which contribute to your result, therefore i am sure if the tactic is at fault, it's not just the tactic.
Of course, there is no one size fits all in this game. How the AI works I don't know but it's obviously better than it was during the 97/98 days when you didn't even need to play a keeper in goal!

But still.... tactic which allows a team to create 13 chances and in my second game, allow Palermo to score 7 goals against me in 45 minutes is taking the ****.

I can see how it would work in Holland, all but PSV and Ajax are rubbish sides. I'd like to see it tried in Italy with Emploi, Atalanta or whichever average side. They'd get their backsides kicked with such an attacking tactic.

Playing wide and o high up the pitch away from home is asking for trouble whichever side you are.

Not for me anyway, I prefer much tighter defence and if it means winning the league all the way with 1-0s then so be it.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:08 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #102
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Antonio, I think by now you also got the point.. this tactic will most likely not work for Empoli away vs. Inter. Very much how it would be in real life if they wanted to adopt the Ajax system right before getting on the bus.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:49 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #103
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Antonio, I think by now you also got the point.. this tactic will most likely not work for Empoli away vs. Inter. Very much how it would be in real life if they wanted to adopt the Ajax system right before getting on the bus.
Who mentioned Emploi Vs Inter?! You did... strawman I'm afraid.

I know a good tactic when I see one. Like I said, and I will say it again, a default 442 tactic get's me better results playing average sides.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:31 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #104
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Its funny..I won the league all 5 seasons+3 CL finals, and you still think the tactic is rubbish?
Which formation was it, the original(4-2-1-3) or one of theese:


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Old 11-19-2006, 11:34 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #105
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by ntfc:
There are so many factors which contribute to your result, therefore i am sure if the tactic is at fault, it's not just the tactic.
Of course, there is no one size fits all in this game. How the AI works I don't know but it's obviously better than it was during the 97/98 days when you didn't even need to play a keeper in goal!

But still.... tactic which allows a team to create 13 chances and in my second game, allow Palermo to score 7 goals against me in 45 minutes is taking the ****.

I can see how it would work in Holland, all but PSV and Ajax are rubbish sides. I'd like to see it tried in Italy with Emploi, Atalanta or whichever average side. They'd get their backsides kicked with such an attacking tactic.

Playing wide and o high up the pitch away from home is asking for trouble whichever side you are.

Not for me anyway, I prefer much tighter defence and if it means winning the league all the way with 1-0s then so be it. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Show proof to back the claims up, saying its poor is fine its your opinion. But next time save the game and show the creator as he might see where you went wrong
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:50 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #106
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Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Antonio:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by ntfc:
There are so many factors which contribute to your result, therefore i am sure if the tactic is at fault, it's not just the tactic.
Of course, there is no one size fits all in this game. How the AI works I don't know but it's obviously better than it was during the 97/98 days when you didn't even need to play a keeper in goal!

But still.... tactic which allows a team to create 13 chances and in my second game, allow Palermo to score 7 goals against me in 45 minutes is taking the ****.

I can see how it would work in Holland, all but PSV and Ajax are rubbish sides. I'd like to see it tried in Italy with Emploi, Atalanta or whichever average side. They'd get their backsides kicked with such an attacking tactic.

Playing wide and o high up the pitch away from home is asking for trouble whichever side you are.

Not for me anyway, I prefer much tighter defence and if it means winning the league all the way with 1-0s then so be it. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Show proof to back the claims up, saying its poor is fine its your opinion. But next time save the game and show the creator as he might see where you went wrong </BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps I should have saved the match but as I said previously, I quit in disgust at half time. Wouldn't you if your side conceded 7 goals, that's right, 7 bloody goals in the space of 45 minutes!!!!

My bad though, having read my previous posts, I do admit to being slightly harsh on the guy.

Have fun all.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:53 PM   Ajax System 2007 Post #107
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Quote:
Originally posted by Antonio:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Rafalution:
Antonio, I think by now you also got the point.. this tactic will most likely not work for Empoli away vs. Inter. Very much how it would be in real life if they wanted to adopt the Ajax system right before getting on the bus.
Who mentioned Emploi Vs Inter?! You did... strawman I'm afraid.

I know a good tactic when I see one. Like I said, and I will say it again, a default 442 tactic get's me better results playing average sides. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Strawman? Yeh that's what I am. My point is you can't expect this, or any other tactic, to work well unless you have the right players. I'd like to see Cleon win the premiership first season with Sheff Utd playing this tactic.

Come to think of it, he might pull it off...
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Originally posted by Rafalution:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Antonio:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Rafalution:
Antonio, I think by now you also got the point.. this tactic will most likely not work for Empoli away vs. Inter. Very much how it would be in real life if they wanted to adopt the Ajax system right before getting on the bus.
Who mentioned Emploi Vs Inter?! You did... strawman I'm afraid.

I know a good tactic when I see one. Like I said, and I will say it again, a default 442 tactic get's me better results playing average sides. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Strawman? Yeh that's what I am. My point is you can't expect this, or any other tactic, to work well unless you have the right players. I'd like to see Cleon win the premiership first season with Sheff Utd playing this tactic.

Come to think of it, he might pull it off... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Be a task to far for me this fomration I think 1st season
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This tactic seemd to work a treat (even with Newcastle Utd!!) Do Mr Roeder and Mr Shepherd read this! I was using FUSS's tactic in my first season and was on the brink of the sack. I switched to this in my 2nd season (4 games gone).

My record after using this tactic is ...

p12 w8 d1 l3

My losses were against Chelski 3-1 (to be expected really), 4-1 off Wigan! and 3-2 reverse by Spurs at home.

Did thump Deportivo 5-0 away tho.

KUTGW
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:26 AM   Ajax System 2007 Post #110
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Originally posted by Rafalution:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Antonio:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Rafalution:
Antonio, I think by now you also got the point.. this tactic will most likely not work for Empoli away vs. Inter. Very much how it would be in real life if they wanted to adopt the Ajax system right before getting on the bus.
Who mentioned Emploi Vs Inter?! You did... strawman I'm afraid.

I know a good tactic when I see one. Like I said, and I will say it again, a default 442 tactic get's me better results playing average sides. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Strawman? Yeh that's what I am. My point is you can't expect this, or any other tactic, to work well unless you have the right players. I'd like to see Cleon win the premiership first season with Sheff Utd playing this tactic.

Come to think of it, he might pull it off... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm.. o
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