fotoshopper

Hi there, i have too pictures and wud like to know which one is the original.


can anyone help?

please message me if you think you can help

please its very important to me.


thanks

ronmatt

"digital" photographs are loaded with tons of info called 'metadata'. To access the metadata, right click the photo > Properties, and open summery. There's your info. I opened an original photo and a copy of that photo and accessed the metadata in both ( see attachment ) I highlighted the 'creation software' info. The orig. simply says ver.1. the copy says Photoshop 7. That tells me that the ver. 1 is the orig digital image, out of the camera and that the other one was copied in Photoshop. If neither one is the orig. digital image then look at the dates listed in Properties > General [ Modified ] the oldest date will be the photo you started with.

fotoshopper

Sorry, i didn't explain myself properly

I have 2 pictures and one of them has been tampered with, but i dont know which one, *they have been sent to me by someone else*

I need someone to look at them and try to determine which is the original by examining them, can you help?

ronmatt

send them to me at rmdsgn@comcast.net I'll tear them apart and try to extract the info... ID them #1 and #2

fotoshopper

ok sent, i forgot to title the subject, so it should be labelled (no subject) thanks for your help

ronmatt

Turns out that both these photos contain the same data..possibly both are copies. I would hazard a guess, based on examination of the pixels in the 'tatoo' area that the oldest edition was the one with the tatoo and the one sans tatoo had some cloning done to remove the tatoo' ( there are still color remnants left behind, a pixel here, a pixel there. This opinion wouldn't stand up as forensic evidence in a court of law but I'm still pretty sure it's accurate

fotoshopper

Thanks, thats a great help, so what you're saying is that it is probable that the tattoo has been removed and not vice versa?

how sure are you of this (percentage wise)?

How likely is it that the oldest edition is the one without the tattoo and the photo has been smoothed over & the tattoo has been added and smoothed over again?

Also, do you know of any other photoshop experts who specialise in this sort of examination?

ronmatt

I wouldn't stake my life on my conclusion. IT'S AN EDUCATED GUESS AT BEST. There are forensics people who may ( or may not ) have a method of examining the photo, pixel by pixel, and determining something \:/ I'm not one of them. But if this were a legal mater, I wouldn't take the word of anyone on the internet. There would have to be some very sophisticated software involved that I doubt anyone here has. ( if this software actually exists ) According to this article, the software doesn't exist yet, but Adobe's on it...

http://www.wired.com/gadgets/digital.../2007/03/72883