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Old 12-12-2007, 03:41 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #1
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I sat down on Saturday morning, determined to complete a LLM 3 season update by the end of this week. However, last night I hit a problem. Being a sucker for a challenge, I decided to load just the 2 Irish leagues (Northern and Republic) which totals 4 leagues.

However, after gaining promotion with the team generated by Frank, I don't know what to do now. I want to keep the games as LLM as possible so toyed with resigning and applying to clubs relegated to the bottom division as they always need new managers.

But is staying with my team still LLM? I've come to a grinding halt, and need some wisdom from seasoned LLMs as to whether I should go back down a level and try to get another team promoted, or stay where I am.

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Old 12-12-2007, 03:49 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #2
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From the Guidelines:
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G.A's Three Rules of playing LLM.


1) Choose a team. Play the same team until you've won everything you can, regardless how long it takes, or until you're sacked. Then start a new game.
2) Choose a team. Play until your reputation attracts the interest of ever increasingly bigger teams; change Clubs as and when you're offered jobs until you're in charge at Real Madrid, Juventus, Man Utd or a World Cup winning Manager with San Marino.
3) Choose a team. Do crap. Get sacked. Wait for another team. Do crap. Get sacked. Wait for….ad infinitum.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:35 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #3
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So many people think that LLM is about trying to manage the worst club possible. It isn't that at all. It's about playing the game realistically and starting off in the lowest playable division.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:39 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #4
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At the very risk of repeating myself I'll quote yesterday's rant.

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What does being a LLaMa mean?

There's several and by all means quite valid answers, but to me being a LLaMa mostly comprises:

-I start at the lowest of the lowest and try to develop a career. That is due to the fact that I'm a noone and I cannot manage anything further up the pyramid. I might stay at the same club or I might jump ship umpteen times.

-As in real life, you don't get second chances. We only live once. So no reloads nor going back to a previous saved point because you did the wrong thing on taking that job or selling that guy. Your life, your choices, your results. Be them good or bad. It doesn't matter. What matters is coping with your own blunders and mistakes.

-Within the boundaries set to me (the game) I'll try and act as realistically as I can. That means I'll only use tactics developed by myself (or the default ones), I'll only sign players from whom I have a realistic in-game knowledge and I'll never use third parties.

What's this 3rd parties malarchy? No editors, no signing players because they turned out great in a previous save or in someone other's save, no scouting tools, no updates.

Why will I never use updates and editors? Because I am noone (and neither is someone making a random update) to judge SI's work. We immerse ourselves in the world they have created. Thus, we must accept that the game as is provided (with patches though) is reality and we don't have superpowers to alter reality. Thus, the world remains as the creators made it.

What isn't LLaMaism to me? Getting relegated or nearly every season I play.

Understand me, please. I'm bound to be relegated now and then. I might even have this crap save in which no matter what I do I stay 20 seasons in a same division, not being able to promote a team and relegating some in the way.

Struggling is certainly a part of LLM, but it is not LLM. I can play the LLM way managing a top power team (provided I worked my way up there in a 12+ years career) and I'll be playing more according to the spirit of LLaMaism than most of the update-saves that clutter the first page of this forum.

If you believe that being a LLaMa is only about doing crap, you're very wrong.

LLM is not rules, guidelines and doing crap. LLM is an ethos and a spirit shared by those who play the game in a simmilar fashion.

Rant over.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:41 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #5
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Yet again I will suggest having Jordi's why I'm LLM rant/speech as a sticky.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:43 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #6
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It's a good rant/speech. It sums up LLaMa'ism quite well.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:46 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #7
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Indeed. It's a very good one.

LLM isn't about staying at a **** club for your entire career just for the sake of it. It's where we start, but nobody knows where we'll end up.

Could be at the same shitty club in the same league for 30 seasons, or we could move to River Plate or Chelskij.

The essence of LLM is to play the game as realistic as possible. As long as you do this, the world is your boundary.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:54 PM   LLM, what do I do? Post #8
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or we could move to River Plate
It is very doubtful that any of us will win the Champions League with River Plate though...
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