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First I would like to say that although I am new to these forums I am not new to the CM / FM games which I have been buying and playing since the version with vocal commentary in the mid 90s.
Some people will agree with me and some wont, thats fair enough as this place is a free exchange of opinions, but I cant understand how the games match engine has gone from what I considered a pretty good one (not perfect) to one I feel is inferior(8.01 official patch) Here are some of my greviences with it.
1 Closing down is not working as it should, attackers and midfielders waltz rhrough with token challenges from defenders.
2 Too many 1 on 1s, probebly as a consequence of the non effective closing down.
3 Too many missed 1 on 1 chances, lots of shots straight at keeper which in turn make the keepers seem like there unbeatable.
4 Defenders stop still when attackers go clean through and even if quicker never seem able to get back.
5 Full backs and defensive midfielders seem totally inefective.
6 Defenders make strange defensive clearences when under no pressure.
7 Central midfielders get too many yellow cards (especially for innocuous challenges)
8 Too many injuries and red cards.
9 Long shots have virtually zero effect, and scoring from long range is almost non existent.
10 Direct shots at goal from free kicks nearly always hit the wall.
11 Near post corners just dont work.
12 Tight marking and man marking seem to have little effect.
I just really hope the match engine is sorted out asap, personally its hampering my enjoyment of the game and i'd dare say im not the only one.
1. - Disagree here. The closing down is actually working fine, it's just that once the players do close down they don't always put a tackle in.
2. - This is a known problem when using attacking tactics and has nothing to do with closing down. Although it is frustrating for some I don't notice it to be honest and the overall scores are not effected. Just a problem with the way chances are being represented.
3 - Exactly the same as point 2.
4 - See point 1. This is the actual problem and is annoying at times.
5 - Disagree. My full backs and my 1 DMC are very effective. Dare I say that this might be down to your tactics and the instructions you give these players.
6 - Haven't seen this happen so I can't really comment.
7 - Again, haven't seen this. I've not noticed an abundance of yellow cards for my midfielders.
8 - Completely disagree. In mine and plenty of other peoples games the injuries and red cards are completely fine.
9 - Unfortunately this is again something I've not noticed. I play with Gateshead right down in the lower leagues and my players have banged in the odd long shot.
10 - Agree, this is a problem. Most direct free kicks I actually score are the result of a deflection.
11 - Agreed. This has been over-tweaked to compensate for the fact that it was too easy to score from near post headers in '07. I've since altered my routine though and now don't care too much. Although the problem should not be there in the first place I've just stopped putting people on the near post making the problem easily avoidable.
12 - I think this again relates to point 4 and the fact that defenders don't seem to tackle enough at times.
So while I agree with some of the issues you've mentioned there are plenty on there that I've not noticed or are in my opinion down to something you're doing.
And of the ones I do agree with I only consider the fact that defenders can sometimes be a bit useless at tackling as particularly serious.
None of these issues are spoiling my enjoyment of the game anyway.
i dont agree with all of these points. the ones i have most issues with are
the 3rd and possibly the 9th and 10th.
i have a friend who just recently played this game. he managed to be top of
the table with Adelaide United after only buying in one player.
he also won most games by scores of 7 or 8-1. this is as a result of to many 1 on 1's,
long shots being to good and the lower level keeper being rubbish.
or he just has an awesome tactic as some would suggest.
i dont mind the current match engine it works well enough and if you dont like
it perhaps you should wait for another patch, as i did for the 8.01.
i know this can be frustrating and does get
a bit annoying, but if you like the 7.02 match engine
then perhaps find a newish transfer update and play that for a few more months.
just a suggestion, as you said this is a place for free exchange of opinions.
1 Closing down alone is alright for me, but there are other defensive issues which exist, such as it being impossible to defend well without a DM, as midfielders don't track back enough.
2 Agree. It was like this on 07 as well though.
3 Same as 2.
4 Agree. On many occasions I've seen perfectly good defenders completely ignore a ball over the top until it's too late.
5 Disagree on DM's. I've got one working superbly, and I find it necessary to have one when playing away from home. That in itself is another fault, as I mentioned earlier with midfielders not marking properly. I've not noticed any overly serious problems with full backs either. Mine are certainly defending better than they were pre-patch.
6 Not noticed this.
7 Disagree. There was not enough cards being handed out before. I'm glad they've raised the amount being given.
8 Disagree.
9 Agree slightly. I'm not sure there's enough long shots being scored, but it's not a major issue for me.
10 Not noticed thisa, but there doesn't seem to be many direct free kicks going in.
11 Agree. I'm glad they've changed the near post corner "cheat" because it was far too successful, but to me it seems as though SI have made it so it never works.
12 As I said earlier, midfielders do not mark and track back as they should, and this is probably related to that.
My main issue with the match engine is the midfield (as I'm sure you can guess), and how they defend. It is impossible to be strong defensively away from home using a flat 4-4-2, even if you have both midfielders with a defensive mentality and no forward runs. Therefore I've resorted to playing 4-5-1 with a DM away from home, and that I feel is probably too successful. I went over 3 months without conceding an away goal, and ended up with the best away record in the league, having lost only 3 times (One of those was played by my ass man as I had a touchline ban).
Attacking midfielders also have too much effect. I played with Luch in Russia and used an AM in every game as part of a narrow diamond midfield. He was never ever marked, and as a result had a brilliant season, despite playing for one of the weakest teams in the Russian Premier Division.
Originally posted by chopper99:
1. - Disagree here. The closing down is actually working fine, it's just that once the players do close down they don't always put a tackle in.
2. - This is a known problem when using attacking tactics and has nothing to do with closing down. Although it is frustrating for some I don't notice it to be honest and the overall scores are not effected. Just a problem with the way chances are being represented.
3 - Exactly the same as point 2.
4 - See point 1. This is the actual problem and is annoying at times.
5 - Disagree. My full backs and my 1 DMC are very effective. Dare I say that this might be down to your tactics and the instructions you give these players.
6 - Haven't seen this happen so I can't really comment.
7 - Again, haven't seen this. I've not noticed an abundance of yellow cards for my midfielders.
8 - Completely disagree. In mine and plenty of other peoples games the injuries and red cards are completely fine.
9 - Unfortunately this is again something I've not noticed. I play with Gateshead right down in the lower leagues and my players have banged in the odd long shot.
10 - Agree, this is a problem. Most direct free kicks I actually score are the result of a deflection.
11 - Agreed. This has been over-tweaked to compensate for the fact that it was too easy to score from near post headers in '07. I've since altered my routine though and now don't care too much. Although the problem should not be there in the first place I've just stopped putting people on the near post making the problem easily avoidable.
12 - I think this again relates to point 4 and the fact that defenders don't seem to tackle enough at times.
So while I agree with some of the issues you've mentioned there are plenty on there that I've not noticed or are in my opinion down to something you're doing.
And of the ones I do agree with I only consider the fact that defenders can sometimes be a bit useless at tackling as particularly serious.
None of these issues are spoiling my enjoyment of the game anyway.
4 -
I don't agree that missing one on ones are related to creating loads of chances.
I don't have the problem of having 30 - 40 chances per game but my strikers constantly hit the ball straight at the keeper when through on goal.
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