brian_mary

I did a search but surprisingly couldn't find anything conclusive about this:

Is there any advantage to hiring a specialized coach?
By this I mean hiring coaches as First Team Coach, Youth Coach, Fitness Coach, and Goalkeeping Coach?

Also, do any of the mental attributes (apart from Adaptability) affect coaching ability?

Does CA have an affect and if so, does an ageing player's CA start to rise again after he's become a coach? And will he retain the same PA (this would surely lead top players to become top coaches though?).

brian_mary

As opposed to just hiring them as a plain Coach?
(^I meant to add)

retired_hope

If they currently don't then they should do, otherwise there is no point in having the titles in the game.

The same can be said for a coaches reputation. Is having a coach with a National reputation better than one with a Local reputation everthing else being equal?

In terms of the mental attributes, I would imagine that some do have an effect, although all staff have the same attributes regradless of there role at the club. So for example a scout has a rating in physiotheropy but doesn't ever use this attribute from anything. I'm sure most of them are used only by staff in the role of manager.

Would be nice to get clarification from Sports Interactive on this.

retired_nsample

A coach who is designated as either A GK or fitness or youth coach can only coach in those areas. Coaches without any specific designation can coach across the board.

Have a lok in the FAQ at the top and there is a full list of important attributes for each of the coaching schedules.

retired_bbturbo

Well there is one advantage to hiring coaches in specialized roles instead of just "coach" - it's a hell of a lot easier on your wage budget. Often offering them a specialized role can save you 50% on the wage cost for contracting the coach.

tonyas

I believe that a coach's ability and their attributes can increase.
I'm not sure if it can be seen in FM07, but AIUI it does happen in FM08.

So if you hire a coach to coach your U18s and give him a Youth Coach contract, then I suspect that his Working with Youngsters attribute might increase.
If you offer him a role as a normal coach then his Working with Youngsters attribute might not increase.

The same could apply to Fitess coaches as well.

retired_okonji patrick

If I understand it correctly, there are three advantages fot specialized coaches :
A. Cost - as Snowy! stated you can sign a youth coach or GK/fitness coach for less, which might not matter for the big teams, but can be very importent for small ones.
B. you might not want coaches with low WWY atributes to coach your U18/U19 players.
C. There is a status view. some coaches will only agree to working as a 1st team coach.

As for the reputaion of your staff, well it should help you sign "big name" players (just as brazilian coaches should help in bringing in brazilian talent).

retired_mikela619

I have always wondered which attributes affect which roles. For example with a physio, I always look for high physio plus good amounts of discipline, determination and motivation. Do these extra attributes even make any difference? The same with Scouts, Coaches and Ass Man. What attributes are needed?

I know you have the 5 star system, but past that, does a coaches motivation or man management have any affect?

brian_mary

Hmmm - basing the following on my FM07 LLM experiences:

1 - I haven't really noticed much saving in wages this way.
In fact I can categorically state that my experiences have been the opposite! - it's been cheaper to offer a Youth Coach a normal Coach contract, and the same for a GK Coach.
Becoming a general Coach seems to be considered a promotion by many specialized coaches!

As you say, The only exception is First Team Coach which is the only contract some Coaches will consider at a low rep club. This is frustrating because sometimes these coaches have good WWY stats.

Using First Team and Youth Coaches aren't cost effective at all - even if it is cheaper to hire them individually, collectively they double your costs. You need twice as many coaches to reach the same effectiveness.
Also, they make you reach the board's quota of coaches much quicker - in the lower leagues some boards recommend just 1 coach!


Does CA make any difeerence between two statistically similarly coaches?
I know it makes a difference for Scouts.

Also, what happens when a player becomes a coach?
Does he get a separate CA / PA?
If not that suggests top players will become top coaches, and poor players will be poor coaches.

brian_mary

Man Management has an effect on effectiveness of some of the coaching disciplines.

Re: Physios - I personally think that Reputation is the most important stat for a physio.
In FM06 I had two physios, a Physio Rating 15 who was World Class rep, and a Physio rating 20 who was Obscure rep.
The World Class Physio gave the default injury reports, and more specific recovery dates than the Obscure Physio when reports were specifically requested.