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Old 10-29-2007, 04:22 PM   Sleipnir Tactic - A different approach Post #1
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After playing some different 4-4-2 formations during a couple of FM and the old CM versions, I decided to create a tactic that will stand out among the typical tactics.

The principles of the tactic is based on a 4-3-3 formation but with a lot of differences!

Two central defenders and two wing backs makes the back four, while a defensive midfielder i right in front of them.

Well, you can see the formation here:


So far in the season i've only played 3 friendlies, but they have all been won. Here are some screenshots of the results with an allmost unchanged FC Copenhagen side. The only new player is Villagra.

First friendly: WS Woluwé vs. FC Copenhagen 1-11


Second friendly: FC Copenhagen vs. Deportivo 4-1


Third friendly: FC Copenhagen vs. Atl. Madrid 1-0


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I'll keep you posted when the season is over. Meanwhile some comments and tests would be appreciated.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:55 PM   Sleipnir Tactic - A different approach Post #2
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It has been a decent tactic so far. Played 15, won 12, drawn 2 and lost 1. Sadly the loss made me miss the Champions League.

Here are the results:


I really need some new players, but quality players doesn't want to go to Denmark

And a correction to the first post
The tactic is not based on a 4-3-3, I've simply developed the tactic with the 4-3-3 system in mind.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:38 PM   Sleipnir Tactic - A different approach Post #3
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Looks very interesting, with only have the two CBs. :thup:

Would be interested in hearing more about what instructions you gave the players, particularly the wing backs, DMC and centre backs .
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Originally posted by Pete!:
Looks very interesting, with only have the two CBs. :thup:

Would be interested in hearing more about what instructions you gave the players, particularly the wing backs, DMC and centre backs .
I sense you're interested in my primary defensive instructions? Well the defensive part wasn't an easy job, and it still isn't perfect as i'm currently getting an average of 0.8 goals per match against me. Luckily i'm scoring 3.9 per match.

Well, here are the instructions you asked for + the rest:
Team Instructions:


GK:


DC:


WB:


DMC:


MC:


Wingers:


First striker:


Second striker:


As you can see, most of the positions have closing down instructions in their own area, which actually helps a lot. Otherwise I would have conceeded far more goals.
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Closing down own area is a good instruction for tactics where holding the shape is important. Don't you find the dcs hoofing the ball up too much? They are set to ultra which means they are literally on the defensive line when they defend.

I can understand why...if you think that at the end of the day, all they need to do is clear the ball when in danger and hope the ball gets won back in midfield. which can have as many as 8 players in.
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im doing well with my own tactic at the moment but ive gotta give this ago.
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Closing down own area is a good instruction for tactics where holding the shape is important. Don't you find the dcs hoofing the ball up too much? They are set to ultra which means they are literally on the defensive line when they defend.

I can understand why...if you think that at the end of the day, all they need to do is clear the ball when in danger and hope the ball gets won back in midfield. which can have as many as 8 players in.
Oh, you mean their mentality? Well the tactic certainly needs tweaking, without a doubt. Especially the two central defenders. Right now I conceed in average of 0.8 goals per game, which is about 0.3 too many.
I’ll try with their mentality set two or three notches to the right.

And yes, they are almost playing as 2. and 3. Goalie

Do you have some other advices you might want to pass on?
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I'd look at their mentality first..don't try adjusting too much too soon. And another thing, you may want to look at the game against Ajax where you conceded 2 goals and try and do something about conceding goals in that fashion.

Its usually not a problem getting goals in this game, the key to any good tactic is possession. If you can find the balance you should do ok. Those matches in the champions league would be my concern.
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looks like you got some good results. I might have a try later on and report back
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I'd look at their mentality first..don't try adjusting too much too soon. And another thing, you may want to look at the game against Ajax where you conceded 2 goals and try and do something about conceding goals in that fashion.
Well the goals conceeded was from a pass between my two central defenders. It looks like there is too much space between the two. One defender pushes up, the other don't! I'm thinking about playing with offside instructions, as it seems to be one of the issues.

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Its usually not a problem getting goals in this game, the key to any good tactic is possession. If you can find the balance you should do ok. Those matches in the champions league would be my concern.
My possession is allways somewhere between 40% and 60%, It seems like I only dominate weaker opponents. When it comes to teams like Ajax, Everton, Celtic, Rennes and Zaragoza my possession is allways somewhere between 40-50. Any advice, or is it trial and error? I know I haven't got the best players but I need more possession against those stronger teams. I have chances enough though.
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