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I always knew this day would happen. I've long since claimed to be one but always wondered in my heart if it were true.
Seasons spent with Redditch and then Forest Green led me to the top job at League 2 Grimbsy Town.
I tried. I really did. But the tranfer budget, the strength in depth, the Carling Cup ... it was all too much for me. I got bored. I longed to be back with no money, in debt, hoping some 16 year old kid would rescue me with a couple of goals to keep me in the hunt ...
So I quit.
It's official. I AM a LlaMa.
99 points with Forest Green in the Conference South had started to actually annoy me.
I mean it was a stroll. That's not LLM to me.
So rest assured I will be starting again shortly. This time it'll be an even more pathetic and hopeless starting point.
So you play for 50 seasons do you? That's strange because I see various people playing various LLM saves, sometimes at the same time.
I think you've missed the point here guys.
The point was that I weathered the LLM storm, got into a position where I eventually earned a crack at a bigger job and then a league job but rather than embrace it I craved to be back in the duldrums like we all start out in LLM.
I found I had scouts that picked out great players every time, always had money and so on. Without it sounding like I am boasting it then becomes not necessarily 'too easy' but a level of easy that I don't enjoy.
I prefer the challenge of starting with a Redditch or Vauxhall Motors and all that comes with it.
I had 7 seasons in my save. 4 with Redditch, 2 with Forest Green, who were Blue Square South but were always going to go up because of their set up regardless of who was in charge and therefore I am back to square one.
That's the point I was trying to get accross. In FM2006 I played a lot of League 1, League 2, FM2007 I started playing in line with LLM and now I have found in FM2008 that I can't cope without the purse strings being tightened, the chairman being completely moronic, and having a paper thin squad. That's what I meant fellas.
Ok Jenninga, I understood that post a hell of a lot more than the post earlier, I too like "I'm Brian" didn't get what you were talking about.
I sort of know what you mean about it becoming too easy.
There is one simple answer to this, start a game as a LLM and stick with that team, no matter how good you become, if other jobs are out there or you get offered them, turn them down and try and take your one club as far as you can.
Jumping from one team to another is one way of climbing the ladder, some players like doing that, others don't.
Also there has always been bugs with FM in regards to teams taking a punt on a manager who in real life they wouldn't touch with a 30 foot pole.
Although one example contrary to this is that Port Vale (League 1) have just appointed a manager from the Blue Square Premier Division, although he has taken them up 3 levels in the past 4 years, so it's not like he's done nothing.
So my advice for you is that you should have stuck with Redditch and seen how far you could have taken them.
I on the other hand, prefer the job jumping if possible. I started in Portugal 2 seasons of mediocrity. I then moved to England where, the following year, I gained promotion to the BSP. Two years of improvement in the BSP and hoping for promotion next year. If I got an offer form a league 2 side, I would go.
So far 5 years, 2 clubs and looking for an offer. Steve Bruce, eat your heart out.
The intent for me is to either move up with my current club or move up my moving clubs. I want to see if I can cope in one of the top leagues in Europe.
I certainly consider this perfect LLaMa territory.
There's several and by all means quite valid answers, but to me being a LLaMa mostly comprises:
-I start at the lowest of the lowest and try to develop a career. That is due to the fact that I'm a noone and I cannot manage anything further up the pyramid. I might stay at the same club or I might jump ship umpteen times.
-As in real life, you don't get second chances. We only live once. So no reloads nor going back to a previous saved point because you did the wrong thing on taking that job or selling that guy. Your life, your choices, your results. Be them good or bad. It doesn't matter. What matters is coping with your own blunders and mistakes.
-Within the boundaries set to me (the game) I'll try and act as realistically as I can. That means I'll only use tactics developed by myself (or the default ones), I'll only sign players from whom I have a realistic in-game knowledge and I'll never use third parties.
What's this 3rd parties malarchy? No editors, no signing players because they turned out great in a previous save or in someone other's save, no scouting tools, no updates.
Why will I never use updates and editors? Because I am noone (and neither is someone making a random update) to judge SI's work. We immerse ourselves in the world they have created. Thus, we must accept that the game as is provided (with patches though) is reality and we don't have superpowers to alter reality. Thus, the world remains as the creators made it.
What isn't LLaMaism to me? Getting relegated or nearly every season I play.
Understand me, please. I'm bound to be relegated now and then. I might even have this crap save in which no matter what I do I stay 20 seasons in a same division, not being able to promote a team and relegating some in the way.
Struggling is certainly a part of LLM, but it is not LLM. I can play the LLM way managing a top power team (provided I worked my way up there in a 12+ years career) and I'll be playing more according to the spirit of LLaMaism than most of the update-saves that clutter the first page of this forum.
If you believe that being a LLaMa is only about doing crap, you're very wrong.
LLM is not rules, guidelines and doing crap. LLM is an ethos and a spirit shared by those who play the game in a simmilar fashion.
The point of LLM is most importantly that it is the most realistic way to simulate a real manager carreer. If I was a real football manager, my goal would be to become succesfull with my team and try to move up the leagues, so that is what I try to achieve in FM as well.
99 points and it all went wrong 
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