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Originally, I was going to write how the cup expectations are completely out of whack, but after further research, I discovered that there are just a few instances of it being completely off, and these occur mostly when teams are expected to reach the semifinals unreasonably when compared to the team’s league expectations.
For example, Paris Saint-Germain is expected to be a challenger for the Ligue 1 title in three years, but is expected to make both the Coupe de France and Coupe de la Ligue semifinals this year. Assuming everything is equal and no upsets happen, that means on average the top four teams in the country will make the semifinals. Now, if PSG finished fourth or above in the league, wouldn’t that be the same as challenging for the league title (my expectation for three years down the line), but somehow I’m supposed to be that good in both cups immediately? To have reaching the semifinals in both as a “minimum” expectation is ludicrous.
In other words, if a team was expected to finish, say, 13th place in the English Premier League, then an expectation of advancing to the FA Cup’s Round of 16 would be reasonable, as is a title contender in the Football League being expected to reach the Round of 32. (I understand that it may be tough to code tough draws into the mix, in other words, drawing Chelsea away in the third round and having the board upset if we don’t beat them, but I can live with that remaining the same if the cup expectations in regards to semifinals were lessened extensively)
Not sure if the game takes this into consideration (maybe those who have played several seasons can clue me in), but I think the board should consider the “reputation” of each competition entered (as found in the editor). Then the board would care much more how you did in the Premier League (18) than the Carling Cup (11).
But, like I said, I did some research and found that it is the exception rather than the rule (out-of-whack cup expectations), but the instances where it is off are still annoying and should be fixed in the next patch. PSG, for example, should have minimum cup expectations more like reaching the quarterfinals or Round of 16, considering a “respectable league position” is likely somewhere near mid-table, and no matter what definitely not the semifinals (top four).
Here are some specific expectations for a variety of English clubs and how the vast majority of expectations are fine, the only ones that aren’t are the semifinal expectations (especially look at Cambridge United at the end) …
•Chelsea – challenge for Premier League title, advance to the FA Cup Final, win Community Shield, Champions League Semifinals, League Cup Final (all are reasonable with the only exceptions being the Community Shield – who really cares if they win or not? – and the Champions League – semifinals are pretty high minimum expectations)
•Derby, Fulham and Wigan – fight against relegation, FA Cup Fifth Round, League Cup Fourth Round (considering the cup competitions are the Round of 16 for each, close enough to the league expectations to work)
•Watford – respectable in Championship, FA Cup Fourth Round, League Cup Third Round (Round of 32 for each cup competition, which encompasses the top 12 (half) of the Championship (plus the 20-team EPL), which is once again close enough)
•Plymouth Argyle – safe position in Championship, FA Cup Third Round, League Cup Second Round (Round of 64 for each cup competition, which goes all the way down to the top 20 of League One, so that is more than reasonable)
•Leyton Orient – fight against relegation in League One, FA Cup Third Round, Johnstone’s Paint Second Round, participate in League Cup (Round of 64 for FA Cup, which equals a top-20 placement in the 24-team League One, so that works – Round of 32 for Johnstone’s Paint, which encompasses all 24 of League One and top eight of League Two, so that definitely works)
•Cambridge United – respectable league position in Blue Square Premier, FA Cup First Round, Setanta Shield Semifinal, FA Trophy Semifinal (124 teams make the FA Cup First Round and Blue Square Premier teams make up numbers 93-116 so that obviously works – now making the Setanta Shield and FA Trophy semifinals is a little challenging considering that would equal a top-four position in Blue Square Premier, but the team is only expected to have a respectable league position)
An additional concern (minor when compared to the above issues, but annoying nonetheless) - in my Celtic game, why does the board keep reminding me how proud they are that I won the MLS All-Stars? That’s a glorified friendly that I’m sure very few Celtic supporters even remember the team played in once the SPL season got underway.
yeah the confidence does need some work done on it and the expectations especially for competitions such as champions league. i think your right that they should take into consideration the reputation of the competition in mind such as caring cup or community shield - these shudnt really be must win expectations or cause the board to become deeply upset because you lost before expectations.
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Originally posted by kaNovi:
the board confidence has so many bugs.
Its utter carp
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Yes there's certainly something fishy about it
SDorry, couldn't help myself!
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lol
But yeah, there are a lot of bugs. For example, i won the league two years in a row but by less points the second time around. This then lead to the board being angry at me and not shutting up about it since, even though im now in January with a 20 point lead
I actually think the cup expectations are unrealistic for top teams too. I'm still undecided but I would be really surprised irl if the man utd board had an expectation to reach the cup semis ? I'd guess their expectations would be 100% based on the league and CL.
I better expectation would be for a "good cup run" where the board could dynamically see how you did or take into account you lost to one of the top teams.
sometimes i like to grab the board or fans necks and shake it >< feel so angry sometimes.
Im in 2015, and i totally transformed my team newcastle into a worldclass squad and won countless competitions, but one little slip fans and the board come biting your ass. lol. IRL they should bow down to you.
I definately think the board should take into account of who you play in the Cups to some extent. For example, as Man City I was expected to reach the semi-finals of the League Cup and FA Cup, but in the 3rd round of the FA Cup I got Chelsea and got knocked out. The board were upset (and rightly so) but there wasn't any mention of the fact it being Chelsea.
Maybe something along the lines of:
The board are disappointed that you only reached the 3rd round of the FA Cup but are aware of the strength of opposition faced.
Or something along those lines whereby they wouldn't be as disappointed as had I lost to Derby.
Originally posted by Omnislash:
lol right now the club confidence for me is:
Minimum expectation is the club win the League
Minimum expecatation is the club reach the final of the Champions Cup
Minimum expectation is the club reach the final of the FA Cup
Minimum expectation is the club reach the final of the League Cup
Minimum expectation is the club win the Community Shield
luck I didn't win CL last season or they would've expected me to win Supercup and the Club World Championship too. it's completely ludicrous.
Does the board understand that reaching the final of the Champions Cup is much harder than the FA Cup (playing the best of every European country versus the best in your own (one) country)? I also love how those are the "minimum" expectations. Incredible.
Also, as I've heard elsewhere, it would be nice for the board to stop reminding you of what you did in competitions months after they ended (especially season-opening ones like the Community Shield or, in Celtic's case, the MLS All-Stars).
"minimum" expectation to make semis? 
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