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Old 12-11-2007, 07:53 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #1
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Having recently had a bit of a moan (Here - transfers) at some of the existing faults that have been present since the beginning of time i thought it would be interesting to see what the general opinion was.

So my question is this:

If you were given a choice between FM09 having:

A) New Features of the standard found in FM08, i.e. fan days, board confidence, transfer centre, "improved" international managing, or facegen.

B Fixing existing features, for example transfer model, match engine, and manager AI; with the only new feture being squad lists.

... which would players choose? Now i appreciate that many would want both, but having seen some problems (again read the above thread) ignored year after year after year i can only assume that fixing the game and adding things is beyond SI's capabilities.

This isn't meant to be in anyway flippant, just purely an investigation that perhaps may assist SI with the production of FM09. Judging by the lack of responses from the above thread i doubt SI will pass comment, but please feel free to pass any educated comments here.

Personally i'd vote B every time.

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Old 12-11-2007, 07:58 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #2
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B anytime, anywhere, anyhow and all that

No, seriously B anytime!
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:00 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #3
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MY VOTE:- SI please take a break from adding dozens of features for the next release, and instead concentrate on balancing and fixing the existing game. Just this once.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:04 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #4
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I'd vote for B too. But I'd also like SI to be more interactive with its community in regards to new features. IMO, new skin/match flow wasn't really necessary. Time and money could have been spend on other ideas.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:06 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #5
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This is the sort of battle SI are never going to win. If the game was improved, but no new features were added, then you would get many people complaining that the game was basically an expensive patch and data update, whilst if it was released with new features, but less time spent on, you get loads moaning that existing problems aren't being fixed. It's a no win situation.

On a personal basis, I would opt for A. I'm one of those who would be disapointed if we were charged for a glorified patch. New features are essential for keeping the game feeling fresh each year. I know many have criticised the quality and importance of the new features this year, and I personally don't feel it was the most impressive selection this year, this is just down to opinion. Many were disapointed by those in FM07, but I thought the new features in that were great.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:09 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #6
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I don't see why it can't be a mixture of both. It's always good to see some of the "older" modules getting an overhaul and it's nice to get some of our new ideas into the game as well.

The hard thing is striking the balance where people can get excited about new stuff in the game and have an improved experience with features that have been in the game for a while being improved.

Unfortunately it's not possible to overhaul everything for one release, even though it would be wonderful
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Originally posted by Bongo-Bongo:
This is the sort of battle SI are never going to win. If the game was improved, but no new features were added, then you would get many people complaining that the game was basically an expensive patch and data update, whilst if it was released with new features, but less time spent on, you get loads moaning that existing problems aren't being fixed. It's a no win situation.

On a personal basis, I would opt for A. I'm one of those who would be disapointed if we were charged for a glorified patch. New features are essential for keeping the game feeling fresh each year. I know many have criticised the quality and importance of the new features this year, and I personally don't feel it was the most impressive selection this year, this is just down to opinion. Many were disapointed by those in FM07, but I thought the new features in that were great.
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I don't see why it can't be a mixture of both. It's always good to see some of the "older" modules getting an overhaul and it's nice to get some of our new ideas into the game as well.

The hard thing is striking the balance where people can get excited about new stuff in the game and have an improved experience with features that have been in the game for a while being improved.

Unfortunately it's not possible to overhaul everything for one release, even though it would be wonderful
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sorry i meant to say that this was an entirely hypothetical situation and i was not suggesting it should be done in this way, just which area SI could be more focused on.

I know it's impossible to please everyone, which is why i started this thread, just to see what the general opinion was.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ter:
I don't see why it can't be a mixture of both. It's always good to see some of the "older" modules getting an overhaul and it's nice to get some of our new ideas into the game as well.

The hard thing is striking the balance where people can get excited about new stuff in the game and have an improved experience with features that have been in the game for a while being improved.

Unfortunately it's not possible to overhaul everything for one release, even though it would be wonderful
Good point, but things like manager AI, balanced and working match engine and transfer system MUST be done this year...
And possibly fix confidence and registration
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:18 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #9
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I think alittle of both. There is a lot to fix of the exsisting features but the boards would get unbearabel from people whining there are nothing new. I think that every version need one new "big thing" and a couple of small things to satisfy the customers. On the other hand I think that building on exsisting features could well pass as the small things if it really is taking an exsisting feature forward and just not fixing it to work properly.

For example something that I have been tearing my hair over the past few seasons in my game is that I can't tell the board I need a better feeder club as my players don't want to go to my current one. Everytime I ask for a new one I get teams of the same rubbish standard as I already got.

Media and interaction is another thing that could do with some changes and improvement that has the basics already in the game.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:41 PM   A Survey: New features vs fixing the existing ones Post #10
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I love the confidence feature and hate it at the same time. It shouldn't have been put in. What I'm getting at is that I love to see new features, but only if they work correctly. It has to be a mixture of both A and B. I wouldn't like to pay for FM09 if it had no new features in it. It may aswell just be a patch for FM08. So there has to be new features but some of the older ones need tweaking too.
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