retired_skullking1971

I agree that although i don't believe the AI cheats in anyway, i blieve Paul C has commented on that also in that they don't actually know why the AI appears to adapt better than the human manager to pressure but he did confirm that it was no intentional scam.
The problem which seems to be widely noticed is that the shots on target but lack of goals verus the AI lack of shots yet still score scenarios.
It is difficult to understand that although you got plenty of shots - there is something wrong - even more difficult figuring out what it is.

Most people that upload tactics on here, with the exception of loversleaper, try to go along with the one tactic fits without even mentioning tweaking.
For FM07 the most replied to thread was my own "Promotion winning tactic without tweaking Home or Away". It was regarded by many as a life saver as so many people had given up but then returned and even offered me legend status.
What my point is that if SI knew there audience, would they continue to design the game in the way they do?
Maybe, just maybe, in a few years time the game could be very realistic but only half the audience playing it. Didn't Sega do that with the last Streetfighter series? I was told that they made the control system so complex that it took patience to master it but once you did you could pull off multiple combos with ease, unfortunatley most people give up before mastering it.

retired_topaziumsunrise

nice reply Loversleaper

this is the kind of education we need, interesting read

retired_macion

This might seem kind of odd, but I find if you ignore the shots on the match stats screen, things look pretty reasonable. The results are usually around what you'd expect for the two teams involved, as are the statistics like posesion, passing and so on. The only oddity is the shots - the opposition seem to get way too few, and the player gets way too many. It's as if the game is compensating for this by making the AI strikers much more clinical....

retired_HAdvocate

I think it has more to do with the individual settings it gives the players. The AI knows what settings to give to get the right balance that triggers a more "clinical" effect. When you have time, notice some of the match-stats on some of the other top teams that are underperforming...

retired_jessie333

just finished playing a season with leeds i find that WHEN! i score (after about 8 shots) the opposition have one attack and score, even if they haven't had a shot all game! if i go on and score again i know if there is 20 or more minutes left they will score again without a doubt even if i change my tactics or not!

FM07 was far more enjoyable, granted it may have been less realistic but FM 08 has gone past being realistic and is now just ridiculous. It's not a question of having the right tactics to win, its if the ai decide to let you win.

I have set my wingers to run up the wing with the ball. do they do it? NO! i have set short passes so why do my players like to whack it all over the pitch, i have set limited creativity so they shouldnt be doing it.

It just seems that the tactics part of the game has been quickly brushed over and not tested in favour of a more glamourous looking game.

If this is the way FM is heading i think i will hang up my shaggy coat and give my grandad his cap back coz i wont be needing them anymore.

retired_brit32190

*sigh* The one shot, one goal thing still irritates me like nothing else. For a game that's supposedly trying to be realistic it just seems odd that this area of the game has still not been looked at. "It has to do with your tactics" people tell me... Alrighty then, but how can my orders before and during the game have anything to do with how bad my players convert one-on-one chances (5 or so per game) and how the AI just pops them in at the first chance no matter how lousy their strikers are.

The super goalie bug has been around for quite some time now and it boggles my mind that SI has still not been able to fix it.

BURGI

This is the reason why Ive stopped playing this game. It's just so ridiculous how the AI can score with any shot they have whilst you take 20 chances to score 1 goal. And youre right, doesnt matter what stats they have, they could have a finishing stat of 6 and still do what your striker with finishin of bleedin 20 cant!! And dont mention super goalie. Sorry but SI need to to look at this and fix it otherwise this will be the last FM game I will ever pay money for.

retired_skullking1971

Quite a few of us are saying the same thing now, we reconise the problem - but what is next next step? Give up? Some have done that already.
For the ones who want to keep trying i suggest reading Loverleapers reply above. He's the only one to offer a constructive response.
I advise that you check out HIS THREAD as he offers tactics for most situations. Now that the tactics are available for download (Loversleaper Tactic Set).
To many of us are downloading ONE tactic and thinking that will suit every match - IT WON'T.
Try downloading his tactics and chosing the right one for the opposition your playing.
If that fails... sell the damn game.

Please give any comments concerning his tactics in his thread as this thread is the wrong place for that.

retired_srflowers2002

My team could not score for 6 games with each have 25+ shooting on goal (10+ on target)

I draw 3 and lost 3 of those 6 games with the other team snipe in their 1 or 2 chances or my defenders mistakes.

If this is really down to my tactic??? :o

retired_jessie333

fair play i tried his tactics and it worked for a while after changing tactics four or five times a match. Still trying to come back from the one shot on goal they have had and scored. I don't want to be coming back from 0-1 down every match especially when swansea win 5-3 and they only have 7 shots on target! i simply dont understand the game. i score... they score regardless of who i am playing or what tactic i am playing. are they bringing out an update to sort all this out, i am not a bad loser, i am currently 9th in the league with leeds won more games than anyone else but i am sick of going 1 behind and chasing a game and either wining near the end or them drawing near the end.

I sound like i am moaning and i know i am, but the game is not even enjoyable anymore, i will set my tactics to exploit the opposition without leaving myself open but they always seem to score first or get a draw!

It just p****s me off coz i get sooo frustrated i feel like smashing the computer up and its only a game! a poo one but its still a game, back to FM 07 for me!