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Playing LLM is strange sometimes - I think I have all the rules down, but I'm tempted to forget the ethics sometimes. Does this ever happen to anyone else?
I was playing as Bromley in the BSS, and the team was getting absolutely pasted. I'm playing late one night, my scout finally submits some reports, and I go on a Loan Frenzy. I get 5 players in on loan, 4 of whom are valued at more than 1m, and proceed to beat Newport County 4-3. I smile, turn off the laptop, and go to bed.
I wake up the next day - what have I done? Getting these players in is more unrealistic than using the editor to give Bromley five guys from the Championship.
Apparently, my Reasonableness Judge falls asleep before the rest of me does. Now I'm wondering if I can just terminate these loans and feel OK, or if I should just start over...
To your first question, No I am never tempted to forget the ethics of LLM.
It's up to you, if you feel your conscience will be clear then terminate them and stick with it. If on the other hand you don't feel fully clensed, start again. It's your game afterall.
Second: This is exactly why I am extremely reluctant to loan in players. It's way too easy to get very good quality. I therefore have a rule of not loaning players. The most important to me is to build up the team, not to have instant success.
First Question: Only tempted to look for staff if none come to me. I haven't done it with my current save though as recruiting staff has been quite fluid.
Valuations seem a bit different in this game. The player is worth what the club says they are. I have seen many players which are hideously over valued and even a few which are under valued.
If your scout found these players and the players agreed to sign for your club then I see no problem.
If you feel that not getting "pasted" week-in and week-out is more important than playing realistically, then maybe LLM isn't for you. I wouldn't hold it against you if you didn't want to play LLM, just enjoy FM.
I've never been tempted to forget the ethics, because I enjoy playing the LLM way, even when I do carp and get relegated.
Maybe "ethics" was too much of a hot-button word. Maybe a better way to phrase it is "not understanding how serious it was until the next morning".
I'm thinking about just asking for loanees from League 2 sides and below. I think that would make more real-life sense... now to see if I have an old save I can re-start from...
Well, I think that if you want to try these sorts of things, you should just take a moment to think before you hit that "Confirm" button. Obviously, you want to play with realism. So, just consider it for a moment longer, and try to think about being in their shoes. If you were from [Team X] would you join [Team Y]?
I tried a range of systems in an attempt to find a realistic scenario within the game. Please continue to read
First of all I tried playing and I allowed myself to keep the players that my parent club had sent me in order to guage their impact. With them we would have romped the league by 15-20(ish) points and probably wouldn't have lost a game. That save didn't last long :thdn:.
Then I started a game where I cancelled my feeder links as per usual. The only problem was that this game wasn't realistic because so many other teams in the league had links with decent League 1/Championship clubs, and the gulf in class between these loan players and the rest of the players was enormous. This is possibly one of the factors inolved in the ludicrous numbers of high scoring games that are being experienced. So anyway, that save didn't last long :thdn:.
Then I thought to myself that I would use the search screen for players available on loan only. This again caused me to obtain players that were far too good for me, (as they had been when sent by my parent club). That save didn't last long :thdn:.
I wasn't happy with no loan players, I wasn't happy with loans from parent clubs and I wasn't happy with using the search screen for loan players so I decided then to impose a maximum drop of 3 divisions that I would expect players to drop on loan. I thought this was more realistic, more akin to LLM rules and probably the best plan from the outset. Unfortunately it didn't work out that way. The players that were of a good enough standard at this level wouldn't come to me on loan because they had a reasonable chance of playing senior football, so once again the difference in class between myself and other teamd in the league seemed so big as to make this system unrealistic. So this save didn't last long either :thdn:.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it I thought, so I decided to only loan players who my scouts had found or who had been mentioned in the media, (and then scouted), or been singled out by my scouts as key players in their pre-match reports, (and then scouted). Surprise surprise this allowed me the most realistic gameplay :thup:.
Maybe it was down to my scouts being carp or something else, but they seemed to provide me with players who were of an ability that would allow me to compete with most, (not all), of the teams in the league, but who weren't so good that we would romp the league and the gameplay would become unrealistic. I can't honestly tell you what sort of teams these loan players came from, (it seemed irrelevant as they weren't brilliant), but maybe it's something you might want to try.
Actually, I'd say ethics was the perfect word. There is no temptation to stray from one's ethics, just those which you don't agree with that have been thrust upon you, either by your choice or others.
Essentially, if you're that worried about having to follow the ethos of LLM, maybe you'd be better served elsewhere.
I ruined my save. 
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