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10-12-2007, 06:02 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #11 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by paulsgruff:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by VonBlade:
Never quite understood why people run a deliberately obtuse OS then complain that some software doesn't run on it.
| Well naturally one of the reasons for people liking Linux is that it is Open Source and completely free, whereas you can expect to pay around £60 even for an OEM edition of Vista (using Amazon's current price) - unless you buy a system and it comes pre-installed of course. At least with the Linux systems you have a choice of many variations of the OS dependant on your needs, and none of them cost you a penny (unless you want them on an official CD rather than a direct download).
I regularly use a program called Blender (which is another Open Source free program very similar to 3d Studio) and it is incredible how much better it runs in a Linux environment than a Windows one. So my reason for wanting to run an 'obtuse OS' is that it can cut the amount of time I spend doing things by quite a significant margin. I have no experience on how FM plays through it though and have no need to find out really as I run a dual-boot system so I also have the Windows installation for games etc.
I can see why people would prefer a Linux option though. They're not THAT far behind the mainstream OS's any more in terms of what you can do with them and are a great solution for people that don't want to have to pay extra for an OS. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Additionally, in a lot of ways Linux is years ahead of windows and osx. Check out the desktop environment that i'm running... it's at least 10 years ahead of vista http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w |
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10-12-2007, 06:04 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #12 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by VonBlade:
Might as well complain that Forza doesn't run on a PS3 or Gran Turismo won't work on my Cube.
VB
| Also relating to this, SI went out of their way to ensure that the game would run on Mac systems aswell as Windows. Linux is undoubtably the next biggest OS after this, so why is it unrealistic to think that it could be compatable in all these systems. Many other programs are, such as Firefox - which is a very widely known application that supports all 3.
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10-12-2007, 06:07 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #13 | | Newb
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Exactly. It's an OS designed for particular things. In the same way that OSX is only useful for ... erm... Photoshop, Linux is useful for a tiny proportion of heavyweight apps and so that people can proclaim that tarball -z fingersticker.nfs %12 is infinitely more sensible than just right-clicking.
I certainly wouldn't defend Vista though, in all it's bloatedness. Bleurgh.
I guess what I'm saying is that so few people actually run Linux (99% of people buy a PC and thusly get a free copy of windoze rather than build one and <STRIKE>download</STRIKE> buy a copy) that the market just isn't there.
VB
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10-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #14 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by VonBlade:
Exactly. It's an OS designed for particular things. In the same way that OSX is only useful for ... erm... Photoshop, Linux is useful for a tiny proportion of heavyweight apps and so that people can proclaim that tarball -z fingersticker.nfs %12 is infinitely more sensible than just right-clicking.
I certainly wouldn't defend Vista though, in all it's bloatedness. Bleurgh.
I guess what I'm saying is that so few people actually run Linux (99% of people buy a PC and thusly get a free copy of windoze rather than build one and <STRIKE>download</STRIKE> buy a copy) that the market just isn't there.
VB
| Well, that's my point in the original post, it's getting there. Dell are now selling ubuntu machines for example... it's getting more and more popular as people abandon microsoft and their crap os factory
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10-12-2007, 06:25 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #15 | | Newb
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And that's my point in my post. You aren't (well, kinda) proclaiming Linux as great because it's easy to use, or has a breadth of software support. No, it's because it's not Micro$oft.
If M$ released the greatest free Linux distro ever created, people still wouldn't use it just because of who provides it, irrespective of any benefits it may have over a RedHat or similar.
Meh. This is rather off-topic.
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10-12-2007, 06:26 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #16 | | Registered User
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Some of us can see the limitations of Microsoft's OSs and are not impressed by the gimmicky stuff that they are currently pushing to make Vista seem to be a massive step forward (It isn't) and are not happy to pay huge sums of money for their software simply because they have monopolised the market.
It's true that many software developers don't support Linux, but the only way to redress the balance is for more people to get involved. You're right in saying that only a small percentage of people use Linux, but the number is rising and developers are starting to take note.
It's a chicken and egg thing. The market is small because of the lack of support, but the support is lacking because of the small market.
But it's constantly on the rise and Linux OSs are now considered to be better, in many ways, than MS.
Personally, I dual boot Ubuntu and XP, but as soon as Linux support is incorporated into the software I use, both for business and pleasure, I'll be dropping XP for ever, which is no more than MS deserve!
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10-12-2007, 06:30 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #17 | | Registered User
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To be totally honest, as much as I like OS's such as Ubuntu etc, I'm not totally against Microsoft in the way that many are.
The fact that they monopolised the industry did have one huge positive effect - and that was that you go into pretty much any shop and guarantee that the software you were buying would work on your computer, as pretty much everyone had the same thing. The way it is going now, it is getting more and more difficult for companies to release their software so that it satisfies everybody at the same time, simply because there is far more variety around.
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10-12-2007, 07:13 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #18 | | Newb
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One thing I allways liked a lot when using linux or (Free)BSD is that you can easily drop the eye candy if you want a more responsive system. Of course you can hog it like windows if you want to but it would make a great system for gaming if game developers and user not only followed the mass but tok the lead as well.
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10-13-2007, 03:18 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #19 | | Newb
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Your answer is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7698bb63ce39d2...a7ac4b2bc22&t=27 9754 here. I used to run a number of Linux distros but alas my tiny HDD is not big enough to hold all my music and FM and Linux, so Linux went for the time being whilst I finish saving for a new monster PC.
However, as soon as I have that then no more Windows crap.
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10-27-2007, 02:07 PM
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Football Manager on Linux Post #20 | | Newb
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Can anyone tell us if a no-cd patch is required to run an original copy of the FM 2008 version under Linux?
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