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Old 04-27-2007, 07:11 PM   Can Anyone Help Post #1
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Hi there guys.

I'm new to this forum and hope that i've posted this in the correct section, if not please move into the most suitable one.

Now my problem

I haven't used photo shop for nearly 4 years and have forgotten completely everything that i spend years to learn. My problem is this.

the attached picture; as you can see; is on a plain white background and when trying to cut around it the lines are very rugged and just basically is not the true shape of the instrument. I'm guessing this is because of the white background the really light lighting show against the instrument.

What setting do i need to change so i can cut around this properly?

could i be a bit cheeky and ask somebody to do it for me as well?!?!?!?! :}

please reply or contact me on msn using r055c@hotmail.co.uk
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:45 PM   Can Anyone Help Post #2
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Welcome r055c. The best way to extract it is by using the pen tool. Sadly I don't have the time to do it for you and I do little for free anyways.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:16 PM   Can Anyone Help Post #3
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thanks for the quick reply.

I've tried using the pen tool but keep getting just about the same results as the magic wand.
Is there a setting that can reduce how much white (or light) the pen picks up

apologies for my ignorance but as i said... it's been a while
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:49 AM   Can Anyone Help Post #4
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The Magic Wand Tool has a tolerance setting which can help somewhat in this situation. I played with it a bit though and really the best way is as Gaussian suggests.

Break out the Pen Tool and get down and dirty.

If it was my project, however, I would go to my buddies music store and take a new photo with a more favorable background.

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Old 04-28-2007, 07:05 AM   Can Anyone Help Post #5
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I've tried using the pen tool but keep getting just about the same results as the magic wand.
If you're indeed using the pen tool, then it should be razor sharp.

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Is there a setting that can reduce how much white (or light) the pen picks up
The pen doesn't "pick anything up". With the pen tool you trace the image with a vector path. To understand how the pen tool works, please read this excellent pen tool tutorial: http://www.thegoldenmean.com/technique/pen1.html

For beginners the pen tool can be quite a struggle, but it's not as difficult as it seems. Important is that you learn the shortcuts; it will save you lots of time. Also find out what works best for you; either tracing the image in one perfect run or a quick trace and then fine tuning it with the convert point tool and direct selection tool.

Do yourself a favor and don't try anything but the pen tool for this particular image; the magic wand, extract, even third party solutions like Fluid Mask or Corel Knockout won't give you the same excellent result.

An extraction with any other tool might look good, but you'll be surprised how bad it looks on a black or dark background. You don't have that surprise when you use the pen tool. The advantage of the pen tool is that you know it will work and you can estimate how much time it will take. With the other tools it's often a lot of trial and error and quite often you end up spending more time on it than if you had used the pen tool from the start.

When you can handle the pen tool in Photoshop you will have an easier time using the pen tool in Illustrator, in case you ever considered using that program in the near future. The downside of the pen tool for extracting images is that it take some practice to get the hang of it, it can be time consuming and it doesn't work for everything, like for example fine strains of hair.

But I repeat; I only make the suggestion to use the pen tool for this specific image.

Every image aks for different techniques. Also underrstand, and this is really important, that there is no super extraction tool or technique that will do it all. The best way to get good at extracting images is to learn as many techniques and tools as possible.
Don't try to be too focused on a single tool or technique for a specific image, learn to combine them, turn it into a "team effort". I've done for example extractions of images with a combination of Fluid Mask, Photoshop mask and pen tool.

Sorry if you expected an easier method, but this is just the best advice I can give you, that is if you really care about the quality of the extraction.

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Old 04-28-2007, 05:14 PM   Can Anyone Help Post #6
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[shhh] Hi dude for ur request,Here's what you want.
If this is the thing what you really want then you should know what to do.(thank me for my work)
This image is in Png format.
The image can be seen from the link given below.open image in a new browser right click and save.The image size is (900*600)

http://www.forumsigs.com/users/smartguylenin/Modifiedselection(Lenin)copy.png

No need to do anything to this image,use it in your project.
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Old 04-28-2007, 07:26 PM   Can Anyone Help Post #7
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One should always double check any extraction on a white and black background, so I placed yours on a black one. You wouldn't have had these rough edges with the pen tool.
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