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Old 07-16-2006, 05:38 PM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #1
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First manipulation that I've done in quite a while. It's basically been a whole year! :cry:

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Old 07-17-2006, 02:10 AM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #2
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Nice work Al! [righton] although I'm not so sure about the bird though.
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Old 07-17-2006, 04:19 AM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #3
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'm not so sure about the bird though.
Yeah, I was thinking the same (the bird didn't go exactly good there), but without it, things don't seem right.

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Old 07-17-2006, 04:59 AM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #4
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Yeah, I was thinking the same (the bird didn't go exactly good there), but without it, things don't seem right.
Try a different bird, consider a different location or consider colorizing the bird.?
Even better, use 3 smaller birds (white), but don?t place them in the center. What ever you do, don?t add anything that moves the main focus away from the woman. It?s also a common rule in photography (and not just photography) not to compete with the main subject, unless intentionally.
That's why a lot of professional photographers will say: "It's not important what you put in, it's what you leave out".

Attached is a rough sketch in which direction you might consider going.

Also understand that you don't always need objects to make an image complete. Color, light, shadows, depth, etc, these are all elements that can really have a major effect on an image.

Also don't forget the rule of thirds; actually it's a guideline, but it doesn't mean that you should ignore it too much. Learn to understand what makes a photograph work and you'll make it yourself a lot easier to make effective compositions. Sadly too many Photoshop users ignore these basic rules of composition,

Right now you might wonder Al what I'm talking about? If that's the case then do yourself a favor and read some of these really good articles Al; http://photoinf.com/? (I've recommended that site many times)



Btw Al, make sure you read this thread:

http://www.photoshopgurus.com/forum/...p?topic=7804.0

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Old 07-17-2006, 05:13 AM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #5
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Try a different bird, consider a different location or consider colorizing the bird.
Even better, use 3 smaller birds (white), but don?t place them in the center. What ever you do, don?t add anything that moves the main focus away from the woman. It?s also a common rule in photography (and not just photography) not to compete with the main subject, unless intentionally.
That's why a lot of professional photographers will say: "It's not important what you put in, it's what you leave out".

Attached is a rough sketch in which direction you might consider going.

Also understand that you don't always need objects to make an image complete. Color, light, shadows, depth, etc, these are all elements that can really have a major effect on an image.

Also don't forget the rule of thirds; actually it's a guideline, but it doesn't mean that you should ignore it too much. Learn to understand what make a photograph work and you'll have make it yourself a lot easier to make compositions like this. Too many ignore these basic rules of composition in digital design.

Right now you might wonder Al what I'm talking about? If that's the case then do yourself a favor and read some of these really good articles Al; http://photoinf.com/ (I've recommended that site many times)




Btw Al, make sure you read this thread:

http://www.photoshopgurus.com/forum/...p?topic=7804.0
I understand what you are talking about; I took Multimedia Design and Intro to Art at the local college. Thanks for reminding me Gaussian.
We can't hotlink to image servers like photobucket? [confused]
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We can't hotlink to image servers like photobucket??
What's the confusion? (? [confused]? ) emoticon for?? \:/
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:16 AM   Back Into Manipulation! Post #7
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I understand what you are talking about; I took Multimedia Design and Intro to Art at the local college.? Thanks for reminding me Gaussian.
Everbody can take courses, it's how you bring it into pratice Al.
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Everbody can take courses, it's how you bring it into pratice Al.
Exactly and I do bring it into practice . . .

(I also ignore it )
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What's the confusion ( [confused] ) emoticon for? \:/
That third-party server, Photobucket, will be alive for quite a long time if not forever so is photobucketing a image onto this forum not allowed?
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Hey, I kinda like it, Al. Although I agree with gaussian - the bird should go. ?[righton]
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Couldn't we do both, gaussian? Post an image here and an off-site link to a hi-res version?
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