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Old 07-04-2006, 11:45 AM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #11
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Namvet... the backdrop was and still is being used as a studio prop. There once were 'commercial art' companies that specialized in such things. These companies also painted backdrops for stage plays, museum displays and window displays for the bigger department stores. Many of them morphed into outdoor advertising (billboards). You can still get them from companies like this;

http://www.backdropoutlet.com/catalo...x.php?cPath=23
ronmatt .. thanks for that .... I did do a google search .. but didn't think of trying just 'backdrop' [doh] ... I should have 'cos, amateur theatre here still use them when suitable

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Alistair, as for the digital scrapbook, fun idea, keep in mind that a cd disk is only good for about 6 years (they say 10, but...)
... geesh, I'd better start copying my 'old' image cd's tonight!! ...... \:/ and my music cd's ... \:/ does that mean that my bought (purchased) cd's are going to 'die' somewhere between 6-10 years?? ..... and what about my dvd's??? .... aaarrgh!! ... I'm going back to black plastic!! ... [bustagut] [bustagut]


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Old 07-05-2006, 09:35 AM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #12
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Namvet... the backdrop was and still is being used as a studio prop. There once were 'commercial art' companies that specialized in such things. These companies also painted backdrops for stage plays, museum displays and window displays for the bigger department stores. Many of them morphed into outdoor advertising (billboards). You can still get them from companies like this;

http://www.backdropoutlet.com/catalo...x.php?cPath=23

Alistair, as for the digital scrapbook, fun idea, keep in mind that a cd disk is only good for about 6 years (they say 10, but...)
soyou'll have to remember to copy them every now and then.. and in 6 years, who knows what they'll be copying onto.

Speaking of back-ups and copying...

I have my info on my C drive and I copy it to my 120gb external drive. Is there any way that I could have my computer do a auto copy of specific folders; sort of a mirror image? I have been trying to find software but I don't know what one would call it!
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:45 AM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #13
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Speaking of back-ups and copying...

I have my info on my C drive and I copy it to my 120gb external drive.? Is there any way that I could have my computer do a auto copy of specific folders; sort of a mirror image?? I have been trying to find software but I don't know what one would call it!
\:/ ..... Alistair .. do you mean something like Norton's Ghost? ....
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Old 07-05-2006, 04:31 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #14
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Hmmm, there is also Stardock Keepsafe but I'm not sure exactly how it works or how good it is.
BTW, I'm digging your scrapbook. I'm thinking of doing the same kinda thing for my grandma. I really like it, so keep it up! [righton]
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:11 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #15
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Norton Ghost was recommended by my computer guru (he has never suggested a bad program to me ... ) so I have 'ghosted' all of my c drives but have yet to use the 'ghosted drives', but, that might happen sooner rather than later as my music computer 'glitched' badly this morning ... will give you an update if I revert to using 'ghost'
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:25 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #16
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I have my info on my C drive and I copy it to my 120gb external drive.? Is there any way that I could have my computer do a auto copy of specific folders; sort of a mirror image?? I have been trying to find software but I don't know what one would call it!
There are several programs that can do this.
I use Second Copy http://www.centered.com/? very simple to use, especially the wizards are great.
SyncBackSE http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbse.html is also very popular, especially among digital photographers.
Then you have Vice Verso Pro http://www.tgrmn.com/ , good program, lost of advanced features, but isn?t always easy to use.
There is also a program called SmartSync Pro http://www.smsync.com/smartsyncpro/ which I never tried though.

If you just want to make a mirror, then consider to use two drives in a Raid-1 configuration.
The downside of Raid-1 (mirror) is that if you delete the file on the source drive, it?s also going to be deleted on the target drive. If your file got damaged the 5th time you saved it, then you probably have the same damaged file on your target drive.

You can avoid this by using any of the above programs to make archived copies on your source drive, because that?s their main strength!
It uses more hard drive space, but it allows you to recover files that were accidentally deleted or damaged. All these programs do scheduled backup only, but there are programs that make backups in real-time:

BackupOnDemand? http://www.caddais.com/BackupOnDemand.html
Vcom Autosave http://www.v-com.com/product/AutoSave_Home.html

So when you save for example a Photoshop file, it will immediately make a backup copy of the file on your backup drive. I have Vcom AutoSave and it works great.

Then you also have programs that can mirror complete drives, like this one:

MirrorFolder http://www.techsoftpl.com/backup/
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:28 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #17
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... geesh, I'd better start copying my 'old' image cd's tonight!! ......? ?and my music cd's ... does that mean that my bought (purchased) cd's are going to 'die' somewhere between 6-10 years?? ..... dvd's??? .... aaarrgh!! ... I'm going back to black plastic!! ...? [bustagut]
No, CDs can last a lot longer than 6-10 years, it all depends what you use these CDs/DVDs for. The oldest one I recorded I can still read without a problem after 18 years.

That some CDs don?t last so long has several reasons;

- Poor recording equipment
- Poor quality media. This week I had a Maxwell DVD in my hand which complete plastic layer would come lose just by bending it, go figure. Good quality is for example Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. Stay away from cheap media.
- Wrong media. Most drives burn best with only certain media brands.
- Poor recording methods and no testing after bun. There is cheap software that can test how well your CD is burned, like CDcheck, CD/DVD Speed
- Poor storage. Considerable changes in temperatures, light, moisture, etc have a really negative effect on the life a CD/DVD. Media should also be stored vertically and dust should be avoided.
- Poor use (you should see how most people handle their CDs/DVDs)
- Wrong labels, wrong marker used

Like I said earlier, how long your media lasts has a lot to do with its purpose. I use for example CD/DVD mostly for backup/archiving, which means I don?t have to handle them that much.
Most professional music CDs can last a long time, a lot more than the 6-10 years that was mentioned earlier. It still has to be proven as for how long, but we have a large music collection with CDs close to 15 year old and each CD plays just fine. I must admit that we do handle audio CDs with care and that we store them properly.

If you really want to play it safe, then make backup copies of your original CDs, preferable 2 copies on different brand media. Then check your backup copies once a year.
You can do this with a quick test or with special programs, some of them are even free.
You can also use programs like Quickpar, ICE ECC, Dvdisaster like I do (I use Quickpar) that can save recovery information. These programs are amazing. I can have a DVD with tons of errors, with data totally lost in several locations and they?re still able to recover the original data by using an error recovery file use the amazing Reed Solomon technique. For every backup I reserve 10% in a recovery file, which means that I can always recover 10% damage, no matter where the damage is.


Most things that one has to do to protect their media are easy to follow, other issues ask for a little more time or dedication, but if you?re really serious about your computer data, songs, pictures or video, then you can come a long way to avoid any damage.

It also depends how much you care about your stuff. I have thousands of digital photographs of my family that I don?t want to lose, neither do I want to lose years of photoshopping or my complete web site designs. I?m pretty sure that the way I protected these, that I will still be able to read them after 50 years.
But to be honest; I don?t care, because in less than 10 years I have a fresh copy of them on 500GB(?) DVD purple-yellow-orange(?) ray DVDs? to decrease the number of media that I have to store.

Ask yourself if you have something you really don?t want to lose and then ask yourself how well you?ve protected yourself against disaster.

Computers is my professional expertise, maybe that explains my need to go into this much detail.
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:34 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #18
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There are several programs that can do this.
I use Second Copy http://www.centered.com/ very simple to use, especially the wizards are great.
SyncBackSE http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbse.html is also very popular, especially among digital photographers.
Then you have Vice Verso Pro http://www.tgrmn.com/ , good program, lost of advanced features, but isn?t always easy to use.
There is also a program called SmartSync Pro http://www.smsync.com/smartsyncpro/ which I never tried though.

If you just want to make a mirror, then consider to use two drives in a Raid-1 configuration.
The downside of Raid-1 (mirror) is that if you delete the file on the source drive, it?s also going to be deleted on the target drive. If your file got damaged the 5th time you saved it, then you probably have the same damaged file on your target drive.

You can avoid this by using any of the above programs to make archived copies on your source drive, because that?s their main strength!
It uses more hard drive space, but it allows you to recover files that were accidentally deleted or damaged. All these programs do scheduled backup only, but there are programs that make backups in real-time:

BackupOnDemand http://www.caddais.com/BackupOnDemand.html
Vcom Autosave http://www.v-com.com/product/AutoSave_Home.html

So when you save for example a Photoshop file, it will immediately make a backup copy of the file on your backup drive. I have Vcom AutoSave and it works great.

Then you also have programs that can mirror complete drives, like this one:

MirrorFolder http://www.techsoftpl.com/backup/
You are definitely still the same g-man; thanks for being so resourceful! [honesty]
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:41 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #19
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Neo .. your last 2 posts contain a ton (... \:/ .. or should that be tonne?? ... [bustagut] [bustagut] .. ) of info ... thanks, really appreciated ....... 'twill take me a week to follow through on those links [bustagut]
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Old 07-05-2006, 05:45 PM   Digital Scrapbooking!!! Post #20
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Neo .. your last 2 posts contain a ton
Who's Neo? \:/ [stuned] [confused] [bustagut]
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