cia admits bush knew saddam had no weapons of mass destruction

retired_kris10nicole · 09-06-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Daaaaave:

I'm surprised blair got completely hooked and mi6 couldn't find any contradictory information of their own (since I'm sure they were also in contact with french intelligence).

Blair was just as keen to believe the evidence that supported war and ignore the rest as Bush was.

I'm sure that exactly as with the CIA, at some level MI6 would have had the alternative info, and at higher levels it was being ignored as it didn't fit their goals.

retired_autumn · 09-06-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Docker:
tl, dr, oh.

Just as long as the war crimes indictment comes along soon then that's all that matters.

It won't, because unfortunately no one cba. The excuse being that it would be too politically divisive.

The wealth of evidence on hand, however, would impeach George Washington.

retired_the gizmo · 09-06-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Herman Bloom:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Daaaaave:
I'm surprised tenet never said anything to powell.

Was thinking about that as I read it actually. Would have thought Powell had to be made aware and it seems astonishing that he wasn't.

Not that suprised at the UK just accpeting the story and going along with it though. </BLOCKQUOTE>

powell was a guy courted by both sides to be a presidential candidate. impeccable military record. brought on as secstate because of his credentials and experience. his reputation was everything to him. I'm honestly amazed that he put everything on the line based on the word of george tenet without a seat at those critical meetings to get all the information.

retired_ks reddy · 09-06-2007, 05:42 PM

Not really surprised they were sceptical about taking the Iraqi foreign minister's word for it.

retired_the gizmo · 09-06-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Father Senegal:
Isnt there another security organisation that Bush can counter claim he got conflicting intelligence from, or is the CIA the be all and end all as far as how he should make decisions?

for international intelligence, the cia is the last stop. other agencies may collect pieces of information but it's up to the cia to put it all together.

retired_kris10nicole · 09-06-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Daaaaave:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Herman Bloom:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Daaaaave:
I'm surprised tenet never said anything to powell.

Was thinking about that as I read it actually. Would have thought Powell had to be made aware and it seems astonishing that he wasn't.

Not that suprised at the UK just accpeting the story and going along with it though. </BLOCKQUOTE>

powell was a guy courted by both sides to be a presidential candidate. impeccable military record. brought on as secstate because of his credentials and experience. his reputation was everything to him. I'm honestly amazed that he put everything on the line based on the word of george tenet without a seat at those critical meetings to get all the information. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Wouldn't that give him complete deniability to preserve that rep, though?

retired_autumn · 09-06-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by finneys13:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by bflaff:
Are you going to trust your government, or the ravings of a paranoid delusional with a political grind to axe?

And taking the word of the Iraqi foreign minister.

I support the Leader. Kool Aid never tasted so sweet. :thup:

CANT HAVE DNA DATABASE, THEY WILL FRAME ME ROFL LOLZ </BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong thread, really. But I'll check the other one to see if you've voluntarily offered your sample yet....

Nope. You could at least announce your intent, though.

retired_the gizmo · 09-06-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
Not really surprised they were sceptical about taking the Iraqi foreign minister's word for it.

versus this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

when only one of the two had information that was checking out every single time?

we were taking saddam's son-in-law's word as gospel. why not this guy?

retired_jabda · 09-06-2007, 05:46 PM

I would be happy to offer the sample

retired_the gizmo · 09-06-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by mark g:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Daaaaave:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Herman Bloom:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Daaaaave:
I'm surprised tenet never said anything to powell.

Was thinking about that as I read it actually. Would have thought Powell had to be made aware and it seems astonishing that he wasn't.

Not that suprised at the UK just accpeting the story and going along with it though. </BLOCKQUOTE>

powell was a guy courted by both sides to be a presidential candidate. impeccable military record. brought on as secstate because of his credentials and experience. his reputation was everything to him. I'm honestly amazed that he put everything on the line based on the word of george tenet without a seat at those critical meetings to get all the information. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Wouldn't that give him complete deniability to preserve that rep, though? </BLOCKQUOTE>

does it matter? he's been disgraced. he's barely popped out of his shell since he left in 2004 after being a fixture in washington for 15 years prior. complete deniability may work in his favor in his autobiography, but not really in the eyes of the public.

cia admits bush knew saddam had no weapons of mass destruction

Grab a beer, sit back and relax.

cia admits bush knew saddam had no weapons of mass destruction