Should only the club captain be allowed to speak to the referee?

retired_srini_aug1 · 09-06-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by jep:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by ajw2255:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by jep:
Captain shouldn't take the punishment for another player - that player should. Let him explain to his manager and the fans why he acted like a twat and lost his side the game by getting sent off. No need to punish the captain.

what is the point of a captains arm band, is it just to win a coin toss? Let them take some responsilbity </BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely baffling - do you actually know what a captain's role is ffs.

Are you seriously saying that a player should be able to get away with slating the ref, knowing its his captain who will take the punishment - absolutely baffling train of thought.

Players MUST take responsibility for THEIR OWN actions and not pass the buck to other people - this is why football is in this situation. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You're missing the point. Players will be less likely to bad mouth the ref when they know another player will take the punishment for it. Most players will take a yellow on the chin no probs if they think it can help their team.

retired_Fit · 09-06-2007, 06:23 PM

punishments aside the captain does alot more than win the toss though, dude ... i'm sure you know that anyway

retired_srini_aug1 · 09-06-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Razzler:
punishments aside the captain does alot more than win the toss though, dude ... i'm sure you know that anyway

I know, but with leadership must come some sort of responsibilty dont you think

retired_susan mcdonald · 09-06-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Henry_14:
might sound snobbish but i think a lot has to do with the intelligence, social background and education of the players.
Cricket and rugby played mainly by players who have been university and/or public school educated from middle class families. They have more respect for authority.
Footballers on the other hand are thick as **** school dropouts.
Obviously im stereotyping and there are of course exceptions.

Complete balls.

A) Welsh Rugby players do not fit this criteria.

B) Martin Johnson is one of the biggest whingers and complainers in Rugby. </BLOCKQUOTE>

What are you arguing with? That people who play rugby union traditionally come from a higher class than footballers? Because they do. Or that rugby players respect the ref more than footballers? Because generally they do.

retired_janearific · 09-06-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by ajw2255:
You're missing the point. Players will be less likely to bad mouth the ref when they know another player will take the punishment for it. Most players will take a yellow on the chin no probs if they think it can help their team.

So what if Liverpool have Gerrard as captain, and some youth player who is playing gets all mouthy and its Gerrard who gets sent off. He then misses the next game or 3. How is that fair ??

On the flipside, say Steven Carr is captain for Newcastle and Michael Owen (who is clearly more important to the side) starts mouthing off to the ref. Carr gets sent off, and Owen gets to stay on the pitch. I would think the opposition would feel a bit hard done by there tbh.

I see the point you are making, I just think its the wrong way to go about it.

retired_derek · 09-06-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Mikey G:

What are you arguing with? That people who play rugby union traditionally come from a higher class than footballers? Because they do. Or that rugby players respect the ref more than footballers? Because generally they do.

Rugby players do not come from a higher class than footballers in Wales. Welsh players still show the same amount of respect as other Rugby players. Ergo, it's not a class thing.

retired_hbjohns · 09-06-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Mikey G:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Henry_14:
might sound snobbish but i think a lot has to do with the intelligence, social background and education of the players.
Cricket and rugby played mainly by players who have been university and/or public school educated from middle class families. They have more respect for authority.
Footballers on the other hand are thick as **** school dropouts.
Obviously im stereotyping and there are of course exceptions.

Complete balls.

A) Welsh Rugby players do not fit this criteria.

B) Martin Johnson is one of the biggest whingers and complainers in Rugby. </BLOCKQUOTE>

What are you arguing with? That people who play rugby union traditionally come from a higher class than footballers? Because they do. Or that rugby players respect the ref more than footballers? Because generally they do. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Only in England is it class based, in France, NZ, Oz, Wales, etc it's ability based.

retired_srini_aug1 · 09-06-2007, 06:37 PM

thats a fair point, there are ways round it. I just think something needs to be done to stem it.

retired_Fit · 09-06-2007, 06:37 PM

I think the idea of the captain speaking to the ref is more to relay messages and air greivences "tell such and such to calm down" etc and not just carte blanche for the captain to have a pop at the ref and get carded. The captain in these situations would generally have to be fairly level headed anyway you would expect

retired_paeng2000 · 09-06-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by ajw2255:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Razzler:
punishments aside the captain does alot more than win the toss though, dude ... i'm sure you know that anyway

I know, but with leadership must come some sort of responsibilty dont you think </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I must have a word with the Police to arrest Gordon Brown because someone threw a brick through my window. He should be responsible dammit

Should only the club captain be allowed to speak to the referee?

Grab a beer, sit back and relax.

Should only the club captain be allowed to speak to the referee?