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Old 09-11-2007, 02:56 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #21
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Government places chips in your kittens brains to tell it what to do iirc.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:56 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #22
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surely asking how blind people think is the far more interesting discussion?
Yes it is and someone even helpfully posted a link - which was no doubt utterly ignored.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:58 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #23
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Government places chips in your kittens brains to tell it what to do iirc.
Mmm chips.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:02 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #24
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oh. apparently blind people acquire language aurally as normal people do. so, essentially, they are the emacs of the human world.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:10 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #25
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by moonie:
cats do not think. they handle according to instincts.

to think is to be able to reason, to philosophize, it's what separates men from animal.
Wrong and wrong tbh. </BLOCKQUOTE>

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might've been slightly wrong with the first one, but I've yet to see a dog or cat reason or philosophize with me.

animals might be able to pass on a certain degree of animal culture, but surely that's not thinking?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:17 PM   Pub Discussion #34534: How do deaf people think? Post #27
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Squirrels working out how to open feeders.
Mice working out how to navigate mazes.
Monkeys learning to use sticks to excavate bugs from underground.
Pavlov's dogs.

And as I said, our cat has reasoned that by standing next to its bowl meowing and looking plaintiff ensures food being given to it.
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might've been slightly wrong with the first one, but I've yet to see a dog or cat reason or philosophize with me.

animals might be able to pass on a certain degree of animal culture, but surely that's not thinking?
I didn't say they could philoshise - you're simply wrong in your definition of thinking. To think is to merely formulate something in the mind - which many animals certainly can do (The Great Apes are of course the most obvious example, but cats and dogs also have this capacity to a lesser degree).
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I've seen before when like a dog will be looking at an unattended pie and you can see him staring at it thinking, 'mmmmm. Pie. Take pie means trouble. Pie looks good though. Pie smells AWESOME'. And then he eats the pie having run it through his mind, but you can see pie-apprehension.

And that's pie.
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I've seen before when like a dog will be looking at an unattended pie and you can see him staring at it thinking, 'mmmmm. Pie. Take pie means trouble. Pie looks good though. Pie smells AWESOME'. And then he eats the pie having run it through his mind, but you can see pie-apprehension.

And that's pie.
And he knows if he's caught with the pie, then he'd better grab hold of as much as he can, and leg it.
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