Langham to be sentenced today

retired_selvinel · 09-14-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Docker:
A lot of it, as with the drug issue, is that it is easier for the police to be seen to be doing something by targeting the user rather than the supplier.

Tough on crime, visible results, blad-de-blah. Then the same people that encourage moan politcal correctness and "society gone mad" when the target driven culture forces the police to punish smaller matters too.

retired_princesspouty · 09-14-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by San:
But does someone deserve to go to prison for getting their rocks off on a a video of a woman getting raped? What harm has that person caused? None, at least not directly.

Well of course if you paid to view it then you're subsidising it but that's not my point anyway.

From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery.

retired_edsel25 · 09-14-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Neil Purvis:
<BLOCKQUOTE>I can see how counselling etc may help and i never said that those who do download child porn shouldnt be given that in order to try and overcome there desire to look at those kind of images.

but i do think if you've done something like Langham has done...looking at the most horrific levels of abuse then yes you do deserve to go to prison.

Not sure what you mean there. Your two points seem to contradict each other. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Im saying you shouldnt just be given a prison sentence or just be given councelling....if you have looked at the vilest images availible you deserve to be punished but while being punished be given a chance to rehabilitate (i.e councelling sessions in prison) so that when you have served your punishment you do not do the same thing again and repeat the cycle. That is what im saying.

retired_shelwill · 09-14-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Retro:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by San:
But does someone deserve to go to prison for getting their rocks off on a a video of a woman getting raped? What harm has that person caused? None, at least not directly.

Well of course if you paid to view it then you're subsidising it but that's not my point anyway.

From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Kind of like watching 'You've Been Framed!' ?

San · 09-14-2007, 02:53 PM

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From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery.

So that would make viewing it for research purposes a viable defense then?

retired_selvinel · 09-14-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Neil Purvis:
<BLOCKQUOTE>But does someone deserve to go to prison for getting their rocks off on a a video of a woman getting raped? What harm has that person caused? None, at least not directly.

You could argue they're creating the demand for more of those videos to be produced. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You could, but being able to prove it's only done for the sake of an audience would be impossible. Unless there's money changing hands, or some form of trade, pretty much impossible.

retired_shelwill · 09-14-2007, 02:54 PM

Wasn't the 'research purposes' defence pretty much thrown out after Paul Whitehouse said there was no such material to be used in this 'Help' programme?

retired_princesspouty · 09-14-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by San:
<BLOCKQUOTE>From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery.

So that would make viewing it for research purposes a viable defense then? </BLOCKQUOTE>
If you could substantiate it yes. The police would have had to look at the videos Langham had wouldn't they?

retired_selvinel · 09-14-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Retro:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by San:
But does someone deserve to go to prison for getting their rocks off on a a video of a woman getting raped? What harm has that person caused? None, at least not directly.

Well of course if you paid to view it then you're subsidising it but that's not my point anyway.

From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery. </BLOCKQUOTE>

*goes to email a snuff movie to Retro*

You're going down with me

retired_selvinel · 09-14-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Retro:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by San:
<BLOCKQUOTE>From a moral point of view the crime is that you're taking pleasure from someone else's misery.

So that would make viewing it for research purposes a viable defense then? </BLOCKQUOTE>
If you could substantiate it yes. The police would have had to look at the videos Langham had wouldn't they? </BLOCKQUOTE>

The content is irrelevant if that happened to be the case.

Langham to be sentenced today

Grab a beer, sit back and relax.

Langham to be sentenced today