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09-16-2007, 01:35 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #81 | | Registered User
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09-16-2007, 01:35 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #82 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by ACou2000:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by BBB:
I made a "joke" about the camel woman (was it a camel?) but wouldn't mock a celeb death and find it pathetic that people quite literally race to get the first quip in, it's really really sad.
| Why is the celeb worth more than the camel woman? </BLOCKQUOTE>
jesus
the celeb will (I SUSPECT) have more people who followed/supported/whatever them, built a connection of some kind, and hence be impacted on a little when they die. especially if its unexpected.
a person that you can be 99.9% sure NOBODY on here knows, is hardly going to warrant the same type of response. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm asking why BBB thought it was acceptable to make the joke about the camel woman but not about a celebrity. Is it solely because people are more likely to be bothered about the latter? Is that not callous? </BLOCKQUOTE>
You seriously can't see the difference between someone dying after being squashed by an over amorous camel and someone apparently dying alongside their young son in a fiery helicopter crash?
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09-16-2007, 01:36 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #83 | | Newb
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Originally posted by ACou2000:
I remember going on a bus on the afternoon of 7/7 ... when there were still loads of warnings out and high alerts.
I won't deny I was a tad more nervous than usual on that journey.
But think I kept it in perspective pretty well.
| still not as bad as my brother who though every test aircraft taking off from warton was off to shoot down a hijacked plane
like terrorist would want to ram blackpool tower
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09-16-2007, 01:36 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #84 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by BBB:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mika:
Well, that's putting it a bit too cold actually, it does register, but I wouldn't say that it affects me.
But it's much more of an big deal to me if it is someone I have followed for years or have met, which is surely natural. And it's not too much to ask in those situations that those who don't care keep their opinions to themselves is it?
| I made a "joke" about the camel woman (was it a camel?) but wouldn't mock a celeb death and find it pathetic that people quite literally race to get the first quip in, it's really really sad. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Why is the celeb worth more than the camel woman? </BLOCKQUOTE>
They aren't. But we 'know' the celeb, we don't 'know' camel woman so we don't care as much, at all really. And tbh, in some dark way such things are funny.
I remember watching a bloke working on a really high building as I was sitting on a bench eating my lunch once and thought I would actually fall over laughing if he fell off. Which I would have. Might have felt bad afterwards.
Humour is a human defence we use at times to protect ourselves, but in most of the RIP threads here that isn't the reason, it's simply what other have said the need to be 'cool' or 'clever' or whatever. Its tired and pathetic really.
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09-16-2007, 01:36 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #85 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Nick OGS20:
<BLOCKQUOTE>In the Rallychap case, I doubt many people on here will have formed that same bond due to seeing him, or meeting him on numerous occassions.
| so fans of a footballer can feel sadness at them dying, but fans of a rally driver should just shrug it off? is there a list anywhere of genres of celebrity it's acceptable to mourn? </BLOCKQUOTE>
In my head. I just feel that footballers (or other mass spectator sports that allow for a concentrated span of attention upon the individual, rather than say, one section of track viewing a car going past) allow for more of a personal bond to be made. Which in that sense makes it more....not acceptable, the word doesn't come to mind...genuine? than rather a "stalker" esque thing of following someone from afar.
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09-16-2007, 01:36 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #86 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Jongi:
However what of the person who genuinely doesn't care or is glad that x person has died? There surely must be people like that out there.
| They should obviously keep silent/out of the thread for me. That's what I've done with the Maddy one, only ever opened it once and that was to laugh at Argel being banned.
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09-16-2007, 01:37 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #87 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Ratinho:
The camel woman isn't worth more or less. It's just the story was incredibly amusing.
Not that much funny about helicopter crashes. Death by sexed camel, always funny.
| I've always hated washed up, Swiss, tennis players.
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09-16-2007, 01:38 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #88 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Father Senegal:
and you misunderstoon my parents comment, I wasnt referring to Rhys Jones parents, but parent in general, who empathise with a situation (ie a child dying) and thus get an emotional attachment as a result.
| Ah...well, I know people who are my age, and people of my age die? Likewise an elderly gentleman attacked may be the same age as a grandfather of mine. Where is the same grief? I know that in the real world people do work that way (in the sense that age matters and the young are the only innocents as it were, and how parents get attached to certain events) but it still seems a little wrong.
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09-16-2007, 01:39 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #89 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Mika:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Jongi:
However what of the person who genuinely doesn't care or is glad that x person has died? There surely must be people like that out there.
| They should obviously keep silent/out of the thread for me. That's what I've done with the Maddy one, only ever opened it once and that was to laugh at Argel being banned. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Exactly why I'll avoid a Norman Whiteside is dead thread.
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09-16-2007, 01:39 AM
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Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #90 | | Registered User
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I got grief ( well 1 post worth  ) the other night for making a joke about Frank Ribery's face and hes not even dead ffs.
But despite that joke i wouldn't walk into a " XXXXX Dies " thread and give abuse and crack jokes. If i honestly wasn't troubled by the news i would probably just read and leave the thread.
People get attched to celebs the like or have followed for years, in some cases they may have been incolved in one of teh high points of their lives. Let them show respect in scilence.
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