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Old 09-15-2007, 11:58 PM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #21
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Sorry I dont get your point about Rhys Jones at all?
Having been around Liverpool during that ongoing debacle, it's bloody everywhere. Just this overwhelming desire to display sorrow, understanding, solidarity. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how old he was - plenty of other people have died in this city who were innocent, why do they not receive similar treatment?
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:59 PM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #22
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Even though i never met the man, or liked his music that much,(apart from the world cup song),pavarotti's death still brought a tear to my eye.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:59 PM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #23
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So in the aftermath of 9/11 and 7/7, you didn't gaf?

Didn’t know anyone so why care.

Am I interpreting your personality correctly?
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:00 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #24
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A postscript to the RJ thing - I will respect people's right to mourn if they so wish (although I will try not to let my rolling eyes show), but it's the almost demanding attitude that EVERYONE must grieve in THIS way at THIS time or you're a heartless bastard who doesn't deserve to live.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:00 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #25
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The thing is, there IS a 'culture of grief' that at times is quite sickening.

On the other hand, it is not unnatural to become attached to certain 'celebrities', be they football players, actors whatever.

When I was about 10, some of the older Scots may remember this, Rangers player Bobby McKean died - I cried my eyes out. When Davie Cooper died, I was totally gutted - I still am. Away from football, Ronnie Barker was another. I never personally knew any of these people, but in some way they meant something to me.

On the other hand, loads of people have died that meant nothing to me at all. Very very few of them I would actually feel the need to belittle though as some do on here.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:00 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #26
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I understand the whole thing, why does one person who has died deserve to be missed more than any other, etc - it makes sense.

Your way of expressing that opinion, however, is just ignorant, stupid and ultimately pathetic.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:01 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #27
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Father Senegal:
Sorry I dont get your point about Rhys Jones at all?
Having been around Liverpool during that ongoing debacle, it's bloody everywhere. Just this overwhelming desire to display sorrow, understanding, solidarity. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how old he was - plenty of other people have died in this city who were innocent, why do they not receive similar treatment? </BLOCKQUOTE>

so you want an equal level of pity for all the other deaths too?

in a way, there's not ENOUGH grief
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:01 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #28
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So in the aftermath of 9/11 and 7/7, you didn't gaf?

Didn’t know anyone so why care.

Am I interpreting your personality correctly?
I wasn't emotionally affected no. More a morbid fascination and musing of the extent and severity such events would result in an upheavel of society.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:02 AM   Dancing on the grave - no over sentimental grief culture in here kthx. Post #29
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Father Senegal:
Sorry I dont get your point about Rhys Jones at all?
Having been around Liverpool during that ongoing debacle, it's bloody everywhere. Just this overwhelming desire to display sorrow, understanding, solidarity. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how old he was - plenty of other people have died in this city who were innocent, why do they not receive similar treatment? </BLOCKQUOTE>

so you want an equal level of pity for all the other deaths too?

in a way, there's not ENOUGH grief </BLOCKQUOTE>

Everything or nothing I suppose, I'm curiously socialist in that regard.
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Father Senegal:
Sorry I dont get your point about Rhys Jones at all?
Having been around Liverpool during that ongoing debacle, it's bloody everywhere. Just this overwhelming desire to display sorrow, understanding, solidarity. Honestly, it doesn't matter to me how old he was - plenty of other people have died in this city who were innocent, why do they not receive similar treatment? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Celebrities/sports stars/royalty etc are in the public eye consistently. People grow an emotional attachment to such people. When they die, especially unexpectedly, people are sad that someone they saw so much of is dead. People who then make flippant comments without thinking or ill-conceived jokes are chastised by those who had this emotional attachment.

How hard is that to understand? Your outrage at this is hardly going to change things, so just calm down ffs.
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