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Old 09-10-2007, 12:38 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #171
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it would just be something else for everyone to expect beyond our capabilities and we would then inevitably fail etc...
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:14 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #172
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jason the Yank:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Champo:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Jeebs:
It's hardly boring.
Yeah cos seeing each team score almost 100 points each game running down a 20 yard court doing the exact same play and with the only stopping being from some person getting touched or a fans rioting in the crowd. :thup:

My mistake real exciting stuff.. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds exactly like how sports writers here describe football.

Minus the scoring, ofc. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Is there a sport you can't make sound laughably simplistic in this way? One guy runs in and bowls a ball at some sticks, another guy tries to hit the ball with a bat to stop the ball hitting said sticks. Another 10 people stand around doing very little. All are wearing white.

22 heavily padded up men run at each other while a ball is thrown over them.

8 men on steroids run 100m really fast.

Two people hit a ball over a net.

Etc etc.

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I agree with your sentiments, but you've kind of used the same argument for and against your point.

You say boxing is possibly the second biggest sport on Earth, partly because "few sportspeople have the global recognition of Mohammed Ali".

You then say that even though Jordan has global recognition, it doesn't mean the sport is popular.
The difference between Ali and Jordan is that pretty much everyone knows the Ali folklore. Refusing to go to Vietnam, Nation of Islam, Rumble in the Jungle, Thriller in Manilla etc etc. What most people, in the UK at least, know about Michael Jordan starts and ends with "he's a basketball player" and some stuff about Nike.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:47 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #173
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don't forget Space Jam.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:50 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #174
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gary Toner:
In terms of popularity or attendance I'd say Cricket would be England's 2nd game then rugby or golf then maybe Basketball.
Depends what format.

Internationally

Cricket &gt; Rugby

Domestically

Rugby &gt; Cricket </BLOCKQUOTE>

Errr I would say internationally Rugby = Cricket. Twickenham is awesome and is allways packed thats 80,000 people. Tours are huge as well. One thing you can't take away from us English we will follow our teams where ever. we out sang the aussies in the world cup final in their own back yard :cool:
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:04 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #175
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don't forget Space Jam.
Oh aye. More people in the UK would have seen him in Space Jam than ever saw him actually play basketball.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:10 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #176
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http://www.johann-sandra.com/popular.htm

There's a list of sports by participation there, which takes official estimates from national federations. However, that data isn't that reliable due to the blatant self promotion of sports as the guy highlights. Claiming 1 in 6 of the world's population (including infants, senior citizens and people with any kind of physical impediment) play Volleyball :/ Don't think so guys.

However even participation isn't that good a barometer when you consider how popular motorsport is compared to how many people actually compete.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:33 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #177
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Difficult for any new sport to gain a foothold due to England's cultural dominance.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:34 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #178
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Squijee:
I agree with your sentiments, but you've kind of used the same argument for and against your point.

You say boxing is possibly the second biggest sport on Earth, partly because "few sportspeople have the global recognition of Mohammed Ali".

You then say that even though Jordan has global recognition, it doesn't mean the sport is popular.
The difference between Ali and Jordan is that pretty much everyone knows the Ali folklore. Refusing to go to Vietnam, Nation of Islam, Rumble in the Jungle, Thriller in Manilla etc etc. What most people, in the UK at least, know about Michael Jordan starts and ends with "he's a basketball player" and some stuff about Nike. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd argue that while people know of the 'Thriller in Manila' and the 'Rumble in the Jungle', many wouldn't know who he fought, or how the fights actually went. They'd probably guess Ali won, but wouldn't know the circumstances. I think the level of actual sporting knowledge would be comparable to Jordan. Everyone knows he played for the Bulls. Everyone knows he was 23. They know he won titles. They know he left for baseball for a while and then made a comeback.

What people know more about Ali than Jordan is his personality and character. They know his legend. From a pure sporting perspective, though, I don't think they really know any more about their achievements than each other. It would just extend to "they were both the best".

Like I said, however, I agree with your original point, so I don't know why I'm still typing.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:43 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #179
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Love this bit from Hectors link:

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Formula One Racing has the largest television viewing audience in the world with just the Formula One championship bringing in 40 billion viewers annually. Considering there are only 6 Billion people in the world, less than half with television sets, and only a fraction of those caring about Formula One racing, that's quite a few... When questioned, the FIA did not respond.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:49 PM   Why england hasn't got a good basketball team? Post #180
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Bbasketball is awesome. Not quite as awesome as football but awesome all the same. Plus England would also be rubbish at it anyways.
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