PMLF

Most Brazilians (white or not) have some Portuguese blood. The white population is mostly of Portuguese origin, but there are 25 million people of Italian descent (more than any other country, apart from Italy itself), and there are millions of German, Spanish, Polish, Ukrainian and Syrian-Lebanese descent.

PMLF

It's the largest Japanese community outside Japan (around 1 500 000 people). Korean and Chinese immigration is pretty recent and I have no idea how many of them live in Brazil.

PMLF

By the way, the likes of Adriano and Ronaldo aren't black, but rather Mulattoes (mix of white and black). Compare them to Robinho to see the difference.

Anyway, it's great Brazil received so many people from so different places.

There are even some thousands of people of Southern American (as in the Southern part of the USA) living in Brazil, they came after their Civil War ended.

The city of Americana (State of São Paulo) has this name because of them.

PMLF

Brazil has more Lebanese-descended than Lebanon iirc. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, that's true. Most of them are Christians who left the Ottoman Empire to escape from military service, persecution, etc... This is also why they are/were often called "Turcos" (Turks).

Some of them are also Jews.

Muslims only started to come during the Lebanese Civil War and some of them seem to be funding terrorist groups, especially the ones living in the Triple Border (where the Brazilian, Argentine and Paraguayan borders meet each other).

davidbowie

no, it's just that in the 60 odd years since people emigrated from those countries, they've actually 'fit in'. you know, like learning english etc. unlike the new lot who tend to think the best way to escape 'the horrors' of where it was they're fleeing, they decide the best idea is to set up a new mini-old-world in some bloody suburb of sydney/melbourne.

oh, and you live in fairfield? speak vietnamese or arabic much?

oooooooohhhh... when i was working fairfield, yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaars ago now, there was this FANTASTIC little kebab shop (yeah ok, one of hundreds in fairfield, but this one was AWESOME) on the corner of Ware Street. If it's still there (heh), lob a molotov cocktail through the door for me will ya - it's Fairfield, no one will notice ffs - as repayment for what the bastage did to my cholesterol count. :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

A specific kebab shop in Ware Street. Needle in haystack stuff imo.

I wish I knew arabic. I could find all the terroists hiding among us :O Would not have much use for random asian languages, as I don't go to Cabramatta.

Yeah, not so many Greeks/Italians near me, for starters they moved into areas closer to the city, and like you said moved out into the rest of the country too.

Scatter

pfffft, i wouldn't house my dog in the shire ffs.

Sean M

The Australian top division football clubs used to be linked to ethnic groups rather than geography. I think there was mainly Greek, Italian and Yugoslavian clubs.

Viduka came from a Croatian club in Melbourne. At senior level football was seen as more of an ethnic game. And a lot of the national team players had parents who came from strong football cultures.

But things have changed now.

Scatter

aye, not just from those countries either. melbourne hellas, sydney olympus (later olympic), st george budapest, auburn hakoa, sydney croatia, melbourne croatia, marconi... the list is endless of the old nsl clubs that were very specific in the communities they represented.

my old man told me a few times of the day his career ended. he played a few times for glasgow rangers in the 60's. suffered a severe leg break and was eventually sold off to greenock morton (a right winger, he freely admits he was never the same player after that injury) where he suffered another broken leg - this time, supposedly career ending. after a while decided to emigrate here. after five or six years out of the game he decided to attempt a comeback in the then fledgling nsl and was signed by hakoa. three games in, and the local derby against st george, he misses a relatively easy chance (it got more difficult depending on how many beers he'd had when telling the story ) and was accosted by a half dozen supporters in the dressing room after the game. it was all a bit of argy bargy until one of them pulled a knife and held it to his throat telling him to improve or else. he's never been to another game of football in any capacity since.

wolfie.

which suburb PHL?

besides the shire in geneal is a lovely area except for the stuck up ignorant fools who live there.

RedmanJB

Yeh huge Balkan community atleast in Perth, Australia.

Melbourne Knights vs Marconi Stallions (Croat vs Serb?) used to be a crazy fixture in the old NSL.