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Old 09-26-2007, 09:17 PM   graduation Post #1
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I feel it deserves it's own thread considering it was easily the most anticipated hip hop album of the year.

I found it very disappointing considering the quality of his first two albums. here are some thoughts I posted on a different board


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I'm tired of hearing people talk incessantly about "production" as if it's some kind of ultimate trump. Production doesn't mean **** if the flow is weak (and it is), the samples are either tired or forced (and they are) and the concept of rapping over 15 year old Euro beats makes him sound like a really, really devoted fan of the KLF. Such a big deal was made about his forays into electronica...so does he use The Knife or Modeselektor or Ellen Allien? Nope...here's a 6 year old Daft Punk sample. He's also running low on the sped up 70's soul samples at his disposal.

One of the reasons his first two albums were great was because there was a real fight going on between the spoiled brat who made it big and the thoughtful kid who wanted to make a difference. Unfortunately, this album proves that it's the brat who won and tracks like "Everything I Am" come off dishonest after the onslaught of braggodocio that precedes it. Hey look! There's the pop collaboration with the Coldplay guy! The video basically makes itself. The album feels forced, lazy and probably worst of all for his genre, dated.

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Chris Martin wasn't added because Kanye absolutely needed THAT voice for the track. He was added because any single by "Kanye West (ft. Chris Martin of Coldplay)" means a radio-friendly single getting air on ACM as well as the hip hop and top 40 channels.

Aside from Drunk and Hot Girls, imo Flashing Lights is pretty much totally pointless unless it's some sort of absurd homage to Dimitri From Paris. Big Brother just another celebrity pseudodrama "revelation".

He's becoming just another rapper that cares first and foremost about sales (no need to even mention that whole weak beef with 50) and seems to be losing the capability to distinguish persona from person. Just another caricatured artifice relying on his production to differentiate him from the rest of the heap. There's no Jesus Walks on this album. There's not even a Diamonds from Sierra Leone (remix) on the album. Just a relatively inspired opening couple of tracks followed up by a flabby middle and maudlin end where the most insight you get is variations on mo' money mo' problems.
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I know jords is a big fan of the album. anyone else want to step to the plate and give some thoughts.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:21 PM   graduation Post #2
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Bought it on the weekend, listened to it most of this week to and from work, and I think it's awful (apart from the first 3 songs)
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:23 PM   graduation Post #3
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Don't mind it really but i do prefer 50 cent's new album.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:28 PM   graduation Post #4
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Pretty much agree with all of that. It's quite clear that where College Dropout and Late Registration were albums, Graduation is a random collection of singles meant for quick chart success. It has some enjoyable moments (mainly the opening of the album) but overall is nowhere near the quality of the first two albums.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:29 PM   graduation Post #5
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i never liked kanye and now he's trying to get rich off the the sweat of such luminaries as thomas bangalter i like him even less.

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:32 PM   graduation Post #6
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never put daaaaave down as a hiphop fan.

havent listened to it yet, liked his first album, second was soso.

no great expectations
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:32 PM   graduation Post #7
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Homecoming > Anything else on the album.

And fwiw, both this and Curtis are tired. Very Tired.

2 stand out tracks per album compared to there earlier ones where you could pretty much leave it playing from start to finish.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:36 PM   graduation Post #8
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Originally posted by ajw2255:
never put daaaaave down as a hiphop fan.

havent listened to it yet, liked his first album, second was soso.

no great expectations
that's because I've been listening to it ever since it was all called rap.

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:37 PM   graduation Post #9
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I've only listened to it a couple of times but the first thing that struck me was that it just wasn't close to the standard of Late Registration and even further from the standard of College Dropout.

Something just doesn't sound quite right with it, it just sounds a little forced.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:37 PM   graduation Post #10
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New Common album on the other hand is very good.
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