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09-03-2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Doog:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
I'm actually starting to wonder whether it's actually right for the NHS to pay ludicrous amounts of money to people with what are essentially terminal diseases.
£3000 a month just for somebody to be more comfortable due to their illness seems very wasteful to me tbh.
| so they should just be left to die in agony then? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Why not? </BLOCKQUOTE>
there are cheaper ways to make people comfortable, a mallet to the head for example
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09-03-2007, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Doog:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
I'm actually starting to wonder whether it's actually right for the NHS to pay ludicrous amounts of money to people with what are essentially terminal diseases.
£3000 a month just for somebody to be more comfortable due to their illness seems very wasteful to me tbh.
| so they should just be left to die in agony then? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Give them cyanide, won't be any agony then, plus won't be prolonging the family suffering watching relatives slowly deteriorate.
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09-03-2007, 07:17 PM
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I'm not saying i definitely believe this by the way - Just looking to try and see the arguments on both sides. There are definitely arguments both for and against it.
| there are about as many arguments in favour of letting someone die slowly and painfully as there are in favour of forced abortions for under 18s
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09-03-2007, 07:18 PM
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The NHS Postcode lottery business Post #14 | | Junior Member
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Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Doog:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
I'm actually starting to wonder whether it's actually right for the NHS to pay ludicrous amounts of money to people with what are essentially terminal diseases.
£3000 a month just for somebody to be more comfortable due to their illness seems very wasteful to me tbh.
| so they should just be left to die in agony then? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Why not? </BLOCKQUOTE>
I dunno, the Hippocratic Oath maybe.
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09-03-2007, 07:24 PM
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Look, we can't have a completely centralised NHS with the same treatments available for all. That'd be unwealdy, impossible to administrate and undesirable. So you have to have local trusts, which inevitably leads to some places having certain treatments and others not. It's just the way it is and there's nothing we can do about it.
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09-03-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Big Geordie:
The NHS has a duty of care does it not ? If there are drugs out there which can pro-long someone's life/ease their suffering then surely it's worth it IMO.
| any medical professional has a duty of care so i don't see it being any different for the NHS as a whole
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09-03-2007, 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Big Geordie:
it's very much a nationwide thing, that depending on where you live is the deciding factor on what medical treatment you receive - particularly when it comes to the more expensive life saving/prolonging drugs.
So - why can't there be one rule for all rather than where you happen to live being the over-riding factor ?
| The over-riding factor in this case appears to be the fact that the drug is still experimental and not yet been recognised by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence. Therefore PCT's are going on a case by case basis until it is.
So, nothing to do with postcodes at all.
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09-03-2007, 07:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
I'm actually starting to wonder whether it's actually right for the NHS to pay ludicrous amounts of money to people with what are essentially terminal diseases.
£3000 a month just for somebody to be more comfortable due to their illness seems very wasteful to me tbh.
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09-03-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Big Geordie:
The NHS has a duty of care does it not ? If there are drugs out there which can pro-long someone's life/ease their suffering then surely it's worth it IMO.
| The thing is, this expensive drug may not be effective to all patients or may not be proven at all.
On the other hand, the same money may improve the lifes of many more patients for the same price - for example Hip replacements for people with arthritis who are otherwise bed ridden etc
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09-03-2007, 07:54 PM
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I'm sure those who are suffering would be willing to take an experimental drug, rather than have to wait (and probably not get because they may die) any treatment until it's verified by the powers that be.
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