AFL controversy thread (with some finals games thrown in)

retired_nela · 09-04-2007, 11:50 PM

Interesting All-Australian squad. 9 Geelong players and none from Collingwood! No Judd, Goodes, Black or Goodwin either.

DEFENDERS
Jed Adcock, Brisbane Lions
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 …scored 10.1 … 277 kicks, 98 marks, 178 handballs … averaging 12.6 kicks, 4.5 marks, 8.1 handballs. 32 clearances, 85 Inside 50m, 50 Rebound 50m.

Craig Bolton, Sydney
All-Australian 2006 ... 22 games in 2007 …scored 3.2 … 237 kicks, 135 marks, 106 handballs …averaging 10.8 kicks, 6.1 marks, 4.8 handballs …12 clearances, 28 Inside 50m, 83 Rebound 50m.

Campbell Brown, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 4.3 … 199 kicks, 116 marks, 108 handballs …. averaging 9.5 kicks, 5.5 marks, 5.1 handballs …six clearances, 26 Inside 50m, 64 Rebound 50m.

Matthew Egan, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … 115 kicks, 79 marks, 142 handballs … averaging 5.2 kicks, 3.6 marks, 6.5 handballs … 10 clearances, 10 Inside 50m, 46 Rebound 50m.

Sam Fisher, St Kilda
Never previously selected … 20 games in 2007 … scored 0.2 … 296 kicks, 186 handballs, 110 handballs … averaging 14.8 kicks, 9.3 marks, 5.5 handballs … seven clearances, 44 Inside 50m, 95 Rebound 50m.

Dustin Fletcher, Essendon
All Australian 2000 … 19 games in 2007 ... scored 3.2 … 309 kicks, 144 marks, 85 handballs, averaging 16.3 kicks, 7.6 marks, 4.5 handballs … six clearances, 14 Inside 50m, 130 Rebound 50m.

Darren Glass, West Coast
All Australian 2006 ... 22 games in 2007 … scored 1.1 … 85 kicks, 76 marks, 163 handballs … averaging 3.9 kicks, 3.5 marks, 7.4 handballs … one clearance, three Inside 50m, 30 Rebound 50m.

Roger Hayden, Fremantle
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 3.2 … 230 kicks, 116 marks, 128 handballs …averaging 10.5 kicks, 5.3 marks, 5.8 handballs …11 clearances, 35 Inside 50m. 68 Rebound 50m.

Andrew McLeod, Adelaide
Four-time All-Australian - 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 6.5 … 367 kicks, 81 marks, 171 handballs …averaging 16.7 kicks, 3.7 marks, 7.8 handballs … 20 clearances, 76 Inside 50m, 106 Rebound 50m.

Nick Malceski, Sydney
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 12.5 … 318 kicks, 143 marks, 140 handballs … averaging 14.5 kicks, 6.5 marks, 6.4 handballs …16 clearances, 81 Inside 50m, 102 Rebound 50m.

Darren Milburn, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 5.8 … 234 kicks, 155 marks, 260 handballs … averaging 10.6 kicks, 7.0 marks, 11.8 handballs … 15 clearances, 29 Inside 50m, 66 Rebound 50m.

Matthew Scarlett, Geelong
Dual All-Australian - 2003, 2004 … 21 games in 2007 … scored 1.2 … 236 kicks, 96 marks, 113 handballs … averaging 11.2 kicks, 4.6 marks, 5.4 handballs … seven clearances, 25 Inside 50m, 97 Rebound 50m.

FORWARDS
Jonathan Brown, Brisbane Lions
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 77.38 … 239 kicks, 195 marks, 114 handballs … averaging 10.9 kicks, 8.9 marks, 5.2 handballs … 14 clearances, 59 Inside 50m, Two Rebound 50m.

Brett Ebert, Port Adelaide
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 52.23 … 210 kicks, 110 marks, 41 handballs … averaging 9.5 marks, 5.0 marks, 1.9 handballs …four clearances, 70 Inside 50m, Five Rebound 50m.

Lance Franklin, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 20 games in 2007 … scored 63.57 … 184 kicks, 112 marks, 85 handballs … averaging 9.2 kicks, 5.6 marks, 4.3 handballs …six clearances, 38 Inside 50m, Six Rebound 50m.

Brent Harvey, Kangaroos
Dual All-Australian - 2000, 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 31.15 … 328 kicks, 109 marks, 222 handballs … averaging 14.9 kicks, 5.0 marks, 10.1 handballs … 48 clearances, 95 Inside 50m, 42 Rebound 50m.

Brad Johnson, Western Bulldogs
Five-time All-Australian - 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2006 (captain) … 21 games in 2007 … scored 59.26 … 292 kicks, 165 marks, 114 handballs … averaging 13.9 kicks, 7.9 marks, 5.4 handballs …16 clearances, 64 Inside 50m, 19 Rebound 50m.

Steve Johnson, Geelong
Never previously selected … 17 games in 2007 … scored 41.29 … 241 kicks, 112 marks, 68 handballs ….averaging 14.2 kicks, 6.6 marks, 4.0 handballs …14 clearances, 65 Inside 50m, 17 Rebound 50m.

Corey Jones, Kangaroos
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 46.31 … 211 kicks, 94 marks, 92 handballs … averaging 9.6 kicks, 4.3 marks, 4.2 handballs … 20 clearances, 68 Inside 50m, Five Rebound 50m.

Scott Lucas, Essendon
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 …scored 61.28 … 292 kicks, 159 marks, 66 handballs … averaging 13.3 kicks, 7.2 marks, 3.0 handballs … 71 Inside 50m, 25 Rebound 50m.

Cameron Mooney, Geelong
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 55.34 … 213 kicks, 166 marks, 80 handballs … averaging 9.7 kicks, 7.5 marks, 3.6 handballs … 61 Inside 50m. One Rebound 50m.

Matthew Pavlich, Fremantle
Four-time All-Australian - 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006 …22 games in 2007 … scored 72.48 …298 kicks, 203 marks, 83 handballs … averaging 13.5 kicks, 9.2 marks, 3.8 handballs … 11 clearances, 88 Inside 50m, Eight Rebound 50m.

Matthew Richardson, Richmond
Dual All-Australian - 1996, 1999 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 53.40 … 261 kicks, 196 marks, 72 handballs … averaging 11.9 kicks, 8.9 marks, 3.3 handballs … two clearances, 71 Inside 50m, Seven Rebound 50m.

Nick Riewoldt, St Kilda
Dual All-Australian - 2004, 2006 … 20 games in 2007 … scored 42.25 … 293 kicks, 193 marks, 68 handballs … averaging 14.7 kicks, 9.7 marks, 3.4 handballs … nine clearances, 89 Inside 50m, Six Rebound 50m.

MIDFIELDERS / RUCKMEN
Gary Ablett, Geelong
Never previously selected …22 games in 2007 … scored 26.23 … 315 kicks, 87 marks, 270 handballs … averaging 14.3 kicks, 4 marks, 12.3 handballs … 81 clearances, 130 Inside 50m, 47 Rebound 50m.

Jimmy Bartel, Geelong
Never previously selected …20 games in 2007 … scored 15.8 … 291 kicks, 127 marks, 254 handballs … averaging 14.6 kicks, 6.4 marks, 12.7 handballs … 77 clearances, 78 Inside 50m, 52 Rebound 50m.

Joel Corey, Geelong
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 7.9 … 301 kicks, 105 marks, 281 handballs …averaging 13.7 kicks, 4.8 marks, 12.8 handballs …117 clearances, 103 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.

Chad Cornes, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2004 …. 22 games in 2007 … scored 16.10 … 380 kicks, 159 marks, 182 handballs … averaging 17.3 kicks, 7.2 marks, 8.3 handballs …56 clearances, 99 Inside 50m, 82 Rebound 50m.

Kane Cornes, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 9.9 … 317 kicks, 151 marks, 296 handballs … averaging 14.4 kicks, 6.9 marks, 13.5 handballs … 61 clearances, 72 Inside 50m, 51 Rebound 50m.

Dean Cox, West Coast
Dual All-Australian - 2005, 2006 …19 games in 2007 … scored 11.9 … 203 kicks, 136 marks, 147 handballs … averaging 10.7 kicks, 7.2 marks, 7.7 handballs …439 hit outs, averaging 23.1 hit outs … 44 clearances, 62 Inside 50m, 42 Rebound 50m.

Nick Dal Santo, St Kilda
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 9.9 … 290 kicks, 66 marks, 182 handballs … averaging 13.2 kicks, 3 marks, 8.3 handballs … 71 clearances, 77 Inside 50m, 53 Rebound 50m.

Luke Hodge, Hawthorn
All-Australian 2005 … 22 games in 2007 … scored 23.14 … 303 kicks, 122 marks, 205 handballs, averaging 13.8 kicks, 5.5 marks, 9.3 handballs …77 clearances, 87 Inside 50m, 51 Rebound 50m.

Nathan Foley, Richmond
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 6.6 … 246 kicks, 46 marks, 286 handballs …averaging 11.2 kicks, 2.1 marks, 13.0 handballs … 105 clearances, 71 Inside 50m, 38 Rebound 50m.

Daniel Kerr, West Coast
Never previously selected … 17 games in 2007 … scored 8.11 … 223 kicks, 46 marks, 238 handballs … averaging 13.1 kicks, 2.7 marks, 14.0 handballs. 89 clearances, 58 Inside 50m, 40 Rebound 50m.

Brett Kirk, Sydney
All-Australian 2004 ... 22 games in 2007 … scored 7.5 … 207 kicks, 75 marks, 283 handballs … averaging 9.4 kicks, 3.4 marks, 12.9 handballs … 118 clearances, 56 Inside 50m, 26 Rebound 50m.

Brendon Lade, Port Adelaide
All-Australian 2006 …22 games in 2007 …scored 15.5 …181 kicks, 113 marks, 89 handballs … averaging 8.2 kicks, 5.1 handballs, 4.0 handballs …469 hit outs averaging 21.3 hit outs … 51 Clearances, 47 Inside 50m, 25 Rebound 50m.

Nigel Lappin, Brisbane Lions
Four-time All-Australian - 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 … 18 games in 2007 … scored 4.6 … 257 kicks, 85 marks, 225 handballs … averaging 14.3 kicks, 4.7 marks, 12.5 handballs …83 clearances, 69 Inside 50m, 45 Rebound 50m.

Cameron Ling, Geelong
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 27.4 … 192 kicks, 94 marks, 225 handballs … averaging 9.1 kicks, 4.5 marks, 10.7 handballs …45 clearances, 52 Inside 50m, 23 Rebound 50m.

Hamish McIntosh, Kangaroos
Never previously selected … 22 games in 2007 … scored 10.10 … 229 kicks, 101 marks, 124 handballs … averaging 10.4 kicks, 4.6 handballs, 5.6 handballs …411 hit outs, averaging 18.7 hit outs … 45 clearances, 80 Inside 50m, 27 Rebound 50m.

Sam Mitchell, Hawthorn
Never previously selected … 21 games in 2007 … scored 2.3 … 238 kicks, 117 marks, 305 handballs … averaging 11.3 kicks, 5.6 marks, 14.5 handballs … 109 clearances, 79 Inside 50m, 32 Rebound 50m.

Quote:

The 40-man squad contains 22 players who have never previously won All-Australian selection, with club representation broken down as follows:

Geelong – 9
Hawthorn - 4
Port Adelaide – 4
Brisbane Lions - 4
Kangaroos - 3
St Kilda - 3
Sydney - 3
West Coast - 3
Essendon - 2
Fremantle - 2
Richmond – 2
Adelaide - 1
Western Bulldogs - 1
Carlton - 0
Collingwood - 0
Melbourne - 0

The Rising Star will be named today, with Geelong's Joel Selwood favourite.

retired_nela · 09-06-2007, 11:51 PM

Port v West Coast tonight. You can write off Sydney for the finals now - Kennelly is out of the side, and Jolly is wanting to return to Victoria.

retired_nela · 09-08-2007, 02:17 AM

Port Adelaide 9.14 (68) dftd West Coast 9.11 (65)

Terrible first half, great second half West Coast looked set for the win, pulling away by over three goals in a low-scoring game, but Port made a great last-quarter fightback.

West Coast now look in deep trouble, with Chris Judd looking like a hundred-year-old man as he limped off the ground and Cousins doing his hamstring (prompting the commentary line "He's going for the ice", which has caused a bit of trouble). They play the winner of Collingwood v Sydney, while Port gets a week off.

Today, it's two cutthroat games - Hawthorn v Adelaide and Collingwood v Sydney.

retired_jesschow · 09-08-2007, 09:38 AM

HAWWKSSSS!!!
Franklin you bloody beauty!! :cool:

retired_aishwarya · 09-08-2007, 11:30 AM

I'm rabid, fanatical Hawthorn - travelled to Sydney last week and couldn't see how we'd get anywhere near the Crows after the ineptitude at the SCG.

Well.

Crawford's first quarter was one of the best individual quarters of footy I've seen, until Hodge comes along and goes 14 times better in the last, astonishing. Franklin is amazing, Roughead will keep getting better and Boyle did little, it'd be nice to see more from him. Campbell Brown eats raw meat for breakfast and Grant "Winston" Birchall has the head of a 35 year old on his 19 year old body.

I was so sick today I almost didn't go (which would have been my first game missed in Melbourne for about 4 years). Suffice to say, happy I did, I just wish I was still with all my mates smugly smashing cans in the city somewhere right now.

retired_newme · 09-08-2007, 01:21 PM

YES HAWKS

Difficult to even get near the game here, time difference is a pain, and I couldn't listen online via the AFL site

retired_nela · 09-09-2007, 02:23 AM

Hawthorn 15.15 (105) dftd Adelaide 15.12 (102)

Collingwood 18.17 (125) dftd Sydney 13.9 (87)

Amazing. That was like a lowlights reel, highlighting all the flaws in the Sydney side in just one game. The worst thing is, they've been blatantly obvious for a while. For instance:

Bevan: If his skills don't let him down, his decisions do. Why would you EVER pass to Mathews in an overhead marking contest, let alone in defence? And what the hell is he doing getting 9 marks from 11 possessions. That is the sign of a go-to person out of defence, and somebody with such poor skills should never be used in that role.
Everitt: So having punched the ball through when he didn't need to, in this game he goes for a mark when he should punch, costing us a goal (as opposed to a point which proved to be the difference in the other game). So next time he goes for the punch...straight to an opponent. Please, never let him near the defensive goal line. In fact, don't put him on the field at all.
Selections: Okay, so you want to keep Dempster in for team balance? Great. He shouldn't have been dropped in round 17 anyway. But why would you leave out one of our few attacking midfielders, Buchanan, when you have so many defensive ones – Bevan, McVeigh, Crouch, Mathews, Kirk, Bolton... Without Kennelly, we need all the flair and run we can get, and leaving Buchanan out was foolish.
McVeigh: Did stuff all yet again. Maybe three good games this season – just not enough.
Barry: You're not 25. Trying to create out of defence is a nice idea, especially with Kennelly not around, but you just can't run away from any opponent under 100kg any more.
Key defenders: Yet again we were carved up by bigger, stronger opponents. I could understand that happening with LRT out, but that's exactly what he's there for – to provide some bulk in the backline. Admittedly, it doesn't help when there is so many opportunities created for them, which is what having so many defensive midfielders is supposed to prevent.
Davis: Had some great games this year, but also has the tendency to go missing. Why not move him into the middle?
Umpires: Not Sydney's fault per se, but a constant factor against us.

Anyway, well done to Collingwood and Hawthorn.

Next week, it's an injury-hit West Coast vs Collingwood, and Hawthorn vs the loser of Geelong vs Kangeroos. It's funny that at the start of this season, everyone was bleating about the Victorian sides being totally dominated by the interstate teams. In the first week of the finals, two Victorian teams knocked out interstate teams!