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Old 09-01-2007, 12:15 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #11
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Doesn't it worry you at all how little the Girls of Halal were capable of confronting the stuff Teeuwen brought in? They just kept repeating themselves in Mantra-like statements. Not even the slightest attempt to anticipate on the other's words.
Worry? Are you kidding? I love to see followers of any faith shown all corners of the logical spectrum.

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There is such a huge cultural difference between them and us it's unbelievable.
Yeah? They sound a lot like Balkendende to me. All is fine, until you discuss something they don't like and then it's Normen en Waarden here, geheven vingertje there.

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The idea that you can close that gap with discussions is like trying to talk a wolf out of eating meat.
If there's no meat, the wolf will have to become a veggie or starve. No subsidies for any religious activity. ANY. We're a secular state, dammit. Once the faithful have to put their money where their mouth is, religion will shrivel and die.

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Preposterous. These people have no conception whatsoever of what a Western Society entails. Now that's what i call ****ing offensive.

I remember watching a show from Teeuwen awhile back which was broadcasted pretty early in the evening where suddenly Hans professed that what he fantasised about was ****ing the Queen up the arse.
Typical Teeuwen. That kind of thing was funny when he did it first, ten years ago or so. Now it's just tired.

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Now, i did not expected that one and i thought it rude and very much not funny. I can imagine that there were and are loads of people who were offended by this kind of talk but the idea of stepping in and saying to Teeuwen (or any other Comedian for that matter): "Hey, you can't say these things anymore" would be rediculous and even though i thought at the time it was way over the edge i wouldn't dream of some lawmaker stepping in and prhohibiting Hans Teeuwen from saying that.
In Balkenendes Netherlands, I would not at all be surprised if they dig up some law about insulting the monarch and actually apply it, tbh.

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But Muslims don't understand that. To them it's unthikable of joking abuout these things and, since we are dirty infidel Kaffir's we must adept to them. **** Western Standards! There Muslims in Holland now so it's their rules now.
All muslims, yeah? Goodness me, how blinded you are. Most muslims are like most people. Just want to be left alone, by fanatics from all sides.

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And the Left Church is in Full Howl off course. After all: Down with us! :thdn:
I again urge you to show us any politician from the left side of the spectrum who said that. This 'quote' is pure invention from the ultra-right-wing.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:26 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #12
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All muslims, yeah? Goodness me, how blinded you are. Most muslims are like most people. Just want to be left alone, by fanatics from all sides.
You noticed anything about the riots in the middle east after some cartoons in Denmark. People died in the frenzy mate. And, off course, we adapted. Instead of staying with our principals hardly any western media dared to reproduce the cartoons out of fear for more violence.

Who's the blind one, DJ?

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And the Left Church is in Full Howl off course. After all: Down with us! :thdn:
I again urge you to show us any politician from the left side of the spectrum who said that. This 'quote' is pure invention from the ultra-right-wing.[/QUOTE]

No, i don't think it was ultra right-wing. It was some Economist who came up with the term i think.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:31 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #13
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The Iranians protested some Swedish cartoon the other day.

Remains to be seen if in a couple of months when word gets around it'll all go off again like last time.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:43 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #14
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The Iranians protested some Swedish cartoon the other day.

Remains to be seen if in a couple of months when word gets around it'll all go off again like last time.
Iran stages those things. It's almost comical to see how well organised and disciplined those protests are. It's like Civil Servants doing a job and leaving quietly again after it's finished.

For instance, they set fire to some trees or bushes near a consulate and at the same time, people were standing by with fire extinguishers.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:46 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #15
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No, the protest was of the normal type, Swedish ambassador being summoned and having his arse spanked. Nothing on the streets as yet.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:47 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #16
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Abe going one better. All muslims in the Netherlands are the same as all the Muslims he sees on TV when there's riots.

What was that about discussing with a non-vegetarian wolf again?

Look, I know I disappoint you, you came posting this in the hope that I would somehow defend those tutholas (just maybe you should adjust your ideas about what leftism is about somewhat, eh?), but neither they nor you get any support from me.

I'm with the majority; the peaceful people who'd like to see these conflicts resolved, instead of fought to the death.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:48 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #17
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Worked well in the past, has it?
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:49 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #18
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You sure it wasn't just the Swedish Ambassador's night off?
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:51 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #19
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Worked well in the past, has it?
Nah, there were always some warmongers who fecked it up for the rest of us. Who knows, we may see a first time. Not holding my breath, mind you.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:52 AM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #20
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PUSSEH
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