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Old 09-28-2007, 10:04 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #111
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by buffalo:
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you have a family, a job, and still you find time to read several newspapers !!!
Well, I don't read them all front to back every single day

Ever seen the Süddeutsche? :eek: The weekday issue reminds of de Volkskrant from 10 years ago, but then the Saturday edition, which cost a week to read </BLOCKQUOTE>

oh right
only politicians would have so much time to read
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:53 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #112
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Bleh You **** me off no end DJ.

I don't care what you think or what your opinions are. I even don't care that you are not able to defend your slogans and soundbites you throw at me.

I even don't give a rats ass about you only are capable of constantly repeating the same stuff about me tarring every Muslim with the same brush.

I don't know what it is you want to hear tbh. Do you want me to say to you:"Yeah, it's wrong to tar ever muslim with the same brush based on the beheaviour of some?

If that makes you happy i'm perfectly willing to do so. The problem is, the last thing you would want is to get this out of the way as then you would have to come up with another distraction to not deal with arguments i make with regards to YOUR own statements / slogans.

I mean i'm sure you can. In your head not only do i tar every muslim with the same brush i also want to hang every ***** i believe.

At any rate, the thing that ****ed me off was that condensending tone you think you must let loose on me. You have the ****ing nerve to say to me i ignore you're points? That's all i do FFS. I'm not angry about your deluded ideas on the subject or even you scary attitude towards people disagreeing with you but don't think that i'll accept that condensending little act of yours.

So anyway, you want to get together in the near future? I'm sure you can clarify this to me in person?

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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TheCranker:
When you guys argue in Dutch is Abe any better at understanding wtf you are saying.
Haven't tried it yet. Personally I think it's better to keep it in English, it forces him to use his brain at least a little bit. :p </BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm pretty flexible time wise so if you can find a little gap in your scheduele let me know and i prolly can make it. No rush or anything.

I'm a little ill at the moment (fever 'n stuff) so i need to wait and see how it pans out but i expect it to pass so let's not plan anything till mid october, ok?
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:39 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #113
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Abe, are you challenging DJ to a fight? Cause that's how it's coming across. And yet you're complaining about DJ's tone?
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:56 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #114
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I was in Alkmaar very recently, but as you said in another thread the last thing on your to do list was have a beer with me, I didn't bother :/

Gonna be a long time before I'm that region again.

Anyways, are we then agreeing that saying whatever is wrong is a 'Morrocans issue' is sweeping and wrong?
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:28 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #115
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Abe, are you challenging DJ to a fight? Cause that's how it's coming across. And yet you're complaining about DJ's tone?
I'm not looking for a fight no. I'm not sure about DJ though.

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I was in Alkmaar very recently, but as you said in another thread the last thing on your to do list was have a beer with me, I didn't bother :/

Gonna be a long time before I'm that region again.

Anyways, are we then agreeing that saying whatever is wrong is a 'Morrocans issue' is sweeping and wrong?
How do you send personal messages again on this board? I'd like to send you my (one of my) e-mailadresses (and you can send me yours) if you want to hook up any time. I don't mind 'treinen' a little.

But right now i'm not very well and i'm not quite sure it's a quick flu thing so setting up things now would possibly be a bit premature.

I'm a bit reluctant, tbh, to put out an e-mailadress on the board.

No we don't agree about calling whatever is wrong (in this respect) a 'Morroccan-problem'.

Although you are probably incapable of reading beyond the word 'No' in the previous paragraph instead substituting all of this and what follows into something like "Hi, My name is Abe Lenstra, i wear the swastika with pride and tonight, i'm gonna hunt myself some '**** in the beautifull countryside of Alabama before hanging me some other darkies (Hee-Ha?)" you are capable of detatching the prblems we aparently now do agree on from the Morroccan Origin.

You are of the opinion that this is Rascist, Sweeping and Wrong.

Mabye this is because you cannot see the difference between saying :"7 out of 10 Morroccan kids leave school without any diploma, 40% is unemployed and one out of 10 Morrocan kids is registered by the police as the suspect in a criminal case" as saying "Every Morrocan kid leaves school without a diploma, 100% is unemployed and every Morrocan juvinile is a suspect in a criminal case."

Now, the latter would be a sweeping generalisation and wrong, the first one is a statement of facts. Even you have not dared to say they're lies.

There, can't explain the difference between what you call sweeping, rascist and wrong and what i call sweeping, rascist and wrong any clearer.

Earlier on you explained that you thought it wrong to attach the 'Morroccan'-label to the problems mentioned as it leads to a stigma of an entire group of people (I have no problem reading what you write, you see that?)?

The reason why i think it's legitimate to not detatch the Morroccan identity from the problems is because i believe part of way you should battle these problems and also their origin is directly conected to the fact that they are Morroccan.

That's a connection you and the Establishment have made with the result you now see before you. Now, you will never make that connection but mabye the Establishment will wake up but i don't know if they will in time.

Well, another post for to not pay any attention to. If you know how to send personal messages on here let me know, ok?
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:30 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #116
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by buffalo:
Abe, are you challenging DJ to a fight? Cause that's how it's coming across. And yet you're complaining about DJ's tone?
I'm not looking for a fight no. I'm not sure about DJ though.

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I was in Alkmaar very recently, but as you said in another thread the last thing on your to do list was have a beer with me, I didn't bother :/

Gonna be a long time before I'm that region again.

Anyways, are we then agreeing that saying whatever is wrong is a 'Morrocans issue' is sweeping and wrong?
How do you send personal messages again on this board? I'd like to send you my (one of my) e-mailadresses (and you can send me yours) if you want to hook up any time. I don't mind 'treinen' a little.

But right now i'm not very well and i'm not quite sure it's a quick flu thing so setting up things now would possibly be a bit premature.

I'm a bit reluctant, tbh, to put out an e-mailadress on the board.

No we don't agree about calling whatever is wrong (in this respect) a 'Morroccan-problem'.

Although you are probably incapable of reading beyond the word 'No' in the previous paragraph instead substituting all of this and what follows into something like "Hi, My name is Abe Lenstra, i wear the swastika with pride and tonight, i'm gonna hunt myself some '**** in the beautifull countryside of Alabama before hanging me some other darkies (Hee-Ha?)" you are capable of detatching the prblems we aparently now do agree on from the Morroccan Origin.

You are of the opinion that this is Rascist, Sweeping and Wrong.

Mabye this is because you cannot see the difference between saying :"7 out of 10 Morroccan kids leave school without any diploma, 40% is unemployed and one out of 10 Morrocan kids is registered by the police as the suspect in a criminal case" as saying "Every Morrocan kid leaves school without a diploma, 100% is unemployed and every Morrocan juvinile is a suspect in a criminal case."

Now, the latter would be a sweeping generalisation and wrong, the first one is a statement of facts. Even you have not dared to say they're lies.

There, can't explain the difference between what you call sweeping, rascist and wrong and what i call sweeping, rascist and wrong any clearer.

Earlier on you explained that you thought it wrong to attach the 'Morroccan'-label to the problems mentioned as it leads to a stigma of an entire group of people (I have no problem reading what you write, you see that?)?

The reason why i think it's legitimate to not detatch the Morroccan identity from the problems is because i believe part of way you should battle these problems and also their origin is directly conected to the fact that they are Morroccan.

That's a connection you and the Establishment have never made with the result you now see before you. Now, you will never make that connection but mabye the Establishment will wake up but i don't know if they will in time.

Well, another post for to not pay any attention to. If you know how to send personal messages on here let me know, ok? </BLOCKQUOTE>
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:53 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #117
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Abe Lenstra:
Btw, can you get Dutch tv in Flockenstoffenhalsundbeinbruchhausen or do you have to get all the news from yours truly?
TV? TV?! You get all your news from TV! Ghahaha, no wonder you have no clue about anything but the latest Wilders rant.

TV, FFS </BLOCKQUOTE>

Or you could have simply asked why i wanted to know that off course. The problem with people like you is that the become condensending very quickly when they are confronted by too many critical questions.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:00 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #118
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I have no problem putting my email here. I've had the same address since 1996 so it's already in every spammers database

djvdd[at]yahoo[dot]com

But as I said, the earliest I'll be in the region again (or even the Netherlands) will be around this time this year, when (if) I'm going to the autocross in St Maarten again.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:36 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #119
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Abe, where did you get those stats from?
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:37 PM   Nice on for DJ (Non-Dutchies need not open this one) Post #120
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Quote:
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I have no problem putting my email here. I've had the same address since 1996 so it's already in every spammers database

djvdd[at]yahoo[dot]com

But as I said, the earliest I'll be in the region again (or even the Netherlands) will be around this time this year, when (if) I'm going to the autocross in St Maarten again.
ok, i'll send you an email with 'Autocross' as subject then. It's not spam, it's me.

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Abe, where did you get those stats from?
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