Quote:
Originally posted by Abe Lenstra:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by buffalo:
Abe, are you challenging DJ to a fight? Cause that's how it's coming across. And yet you're complaining about DJ's tone?
|
I'm not looking for a fight no. I'm not sure about DJ though.
Quote:
Originally posted by DJ:
I was in Alkmaar very recently, but as you said in another thread the last thing on your to do list was have a beer with me, I didn't bother :/
Gonna be a long time before I'm that region again.
Anyways, are we then agreeing that saying whatever is wrong is a 'Morrocans issue' is sweeping and wrong?
|
How do you send personal messages again on this board? I'd like to send you my (one of my) e-mailadresses (and you can send me yours) if you want to hook up any time. I don't mind 'treinen' a little.
But right now i'm not very well and i'm not quite sure it's a quick flu thing so setting up things now would possibly be a bit premature.
I'm a bit reluctant, tbh, to put out an e-mailadress on the board.
No we don't agree about calling whatever is wrong (in this respect) a 'Morroccan-problem'.
Although you are probably incapable of reading beyond the word 'No' in the previous paragraph instead substituting all of this and what follows into something like "Hi, My name is Abe Lenstra, i wear the swastika with pride and tonight, i'm gonna hunt myself some '**** in the beautifull countryside of Alabama before hanging me some other darkies (Hee-Ha?)" you are capable of detatching the prblems we aparently now do agree on from the Morroccan Origin.
You are of the opinion that this is Rascist, Sweeping and Wrong.
Mabye this is because you cannot see the difference between saying :"7 out of 10 Morroccan kids leave school without any diploma, 40% is unemployed and one out of 10 Morrocan kids is registered by the police as the suspect in a criminal case" as saying "Every Morrocan kid leaves school without a diploma, 100% is unemployed and every Morrocan juvinile is a suspect in a criminal case."
Now, the latter would be a sweeping generalisation and wrong, the first one is a statement of facts. Even you have not dared to say they're lies.
There, can't explain the difference between what you call sweeping, rascist and wrong and what i call sweeping, rascist and wrong any clearer.
Earlier on you explained that you thought it wrong to attach the 'Morroccan'-label to the problems mentioned as it leads to a stigma of an entire group of people (I have no problem reading what you write, you see that?)?
The reason why i think it's legitimate to not detatch the Morroccan identity from the problems is because i believe part of way you should battle these problems and also their origin is directly conected to the fact that they are Morroccan.
That's a connection you and the Establishment have
never 
made with the result you now see before you. Now, you will never make that connection but mabye the Establishment will wake up but i don't know if they will in time.
Well, another post for to not pay any attention to. If you know how to send personal messages on here let me know, ok? </BLOCKQUOTE>