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Old 10-06-2007, 01:18 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #31
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surely the real story there is that Luton have got 3 internationals
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:24 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #32
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TV dominates football far too much because of the money they offer
Nah TV dominates because of the people viewing hugely outnumber the ones in the stands.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:28 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #33
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Originally posted by Rob1981:
to be honest, you're pretty naive if you really think that. go and watch Barnet, and see how many Arsenal shirts are in the crowd. Those people go to watch Barnet because they can't get tickets for Arsenal, or because Arsenal are playing on a different day. Likewise, how many fans of Stockport or Altrincham, for instance, are actually displaced fans of Man Utd or Citeh? And a lot of people would simply stay at home or stay in the pub if they coould watch a big game in the warmth, whoever it was that was playing.

Look at the fixtures for next weekend when England v Estonia is off at 3pm Saturday, and see how many lower league games have been switched to Friday night or Sunday, or pulled forward to lunchtime. I'd bet at least 50%. It's because the clubs know that a lot of fans simply won't come if they can watch a big game on TV at the same time.

Chesterfield, for instance, now play their night games on a Wednesday, not a Tuesday. Why? Because they felt that their midweek attendances were suffering because of the Champions League football on ITV.
For your first point, there's not many Premier League clubs where you can't get a ticket if you don't want one. The vast majority of grounds have empty seats in them. And what did Barnet do for fans 10 years ago when all matches were on a Saturday and Arsenal had plenty of space?

But most of what you say is valid though and perhaps my footballing ideology is slightly different to many as I started watching football before all this Sky TV came along and when you could get in to Newcastle matches for £3 and we had more people standing than sitting.

So maybe I *am* naive, I still think you should support your local team (No matter who they are) through thick and thin no matter what and follow their games no matter where you are, but it seems that these days people just watch whatever's on and follow teams at the other end of the country located in cities they have no affinity with. And although having these plastic fans is a necessary evil if you want your team to do well financially, it still annoys me intently.

I guess I've never really thought about what it would take to stop people doing this, and I suppose the answer is to return to a time of less media coverage of the top teams (Which will never happen, I know). The more accessible Man U / Chelsea games etc are, the more impressionable kids will grow up claiming to support them when they should be going along to watch their local team.

So I guess the long and short of it is that sadly you're pretty much right. Unfortunately I tend to overestimate the mentality of the population as a whole and that leads me to expect too much of them.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:33 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #34
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If someone turned up to Ninian wearing a man u shirt or so on more or likely they'd get linched. Adults that is, not children although the parents would get some abuse for bringing their son in a premiership top.

It's cardiff ffs, not feckin manchester united.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:35 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #35
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Surely the price comes in to it as well?

Paying £20+ for a lower league game isn't as appealing as watching a live Premiership game for far less.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:42 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #36
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Surely the price comes in to it as well?

Paying £20+ for a lower league game isn't as appealing as watching a live Premiership game for far less.
Very true. I was shocked when I found out how much some non-league clubs charge for admittance.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:52 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #37
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Our attendances dip noticeably on Champions League Tuesday nights and when Liverpool or Man Utd are playing in the lunchtime kickoff, so a move to live 3pm football would do more harm than good.

Why was the Arsenal-Sunderland game moved to noon tomorrow? Couldn't Setanta have put it on at 5:15 today? Would have made things marginally easier for Sunderland fans, anyway.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:53 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #38
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Why could the arsenal game be a 5pm kick off like most Setanta games?
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:18 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #39
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And neither match on over here today First time I can remember not being able to see a match from the comfort of my couch on a Saturday in a long time
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:05 PM   Only two premiership games this saturday Post #40
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Originally posted by Eoghan_M:
Do you Brits not get the 3 o'clock game on Setanta 1 on Saturdays then no? Get Villa - West Ham here today
Here in Dubai we get every single Premier League game on live on various channels. I can basically pick which game to watch at 3pm Saturdays (apart from today, of course) :cool:

I dont get why Fulham / Pompey and Reading / Derby are on Sunday. Is that something to do with Setanta then ? Surely, picking the Sperz, Bolton, Blackburn or Everton games would have made more sense anyway.
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