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Old 09-21-2007, 02:09 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #11
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they were police community support officers. this should be made clear to those too lazy to click the link.
And? Are they not part of the police? Is watching others try to rescue a drowning kid community support?
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:10 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #12
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by JK Galgreefe:
oh well it's quite simple to understand, the PCSOs couldn't swim and phil dowd is covering their asses.
Nowhere does it say they can't swim. The baffling bit is the police saying nobody should try to help anybody who's drowning. </BLOCKQUOTE>

The excuses made by Chief Inspector were pathetic - I can't dispute that.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:11 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #13
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by JK Galgreefe:
oh well it's quite simple to understand, the PCSOs couldn't swim and phil dowd is covering their asses.
Nowhere does it say they can't swim. The baffling bit is the police saying nobody should try to help anybody who's drowning. </BLOCKQUOTE>

The excuses made by Chief Inspector were pathetic - I can't dispute that. </BLOCKQUOTE>

It's worse than that. It's not an excuse, it's a justification.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:11 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #14
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it does, phil dowd says they weren't trained to do water rescue stuff. so regardless of whether the people who are working as PCSOs can swim, as PCSOs they can't because they haven't been trained.

i'm not endorsing this, i think it's barbaric, but it's the thought process that has been followed. do you need anything explained to you while i'm here, old timer?
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:13 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #15
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it does, phil dowd says they weren't trained to do water rescue stuff. so regardless of whether the people who are working as PCSOs can swim, as PCSOs they can't because they haven't been trained.

i'm not endorsing this, i think it's barbaric, but it's the thought process that has been followed. do you need anything explained to you while i'm here, old timer?
Yes. Still baffled as to why nobody is supposed to help anyone who's drowning.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:13 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #16
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Nearby fishermen managed to pull Bethany from the water but Jordon slipped from view before they could get to him.

The alarm was raised and the PCSOs arrived on the scene. Police said they could see no sign of Jordon in the water, so they radioed trained officers for help.
so why didn't the fishermen go back in? because they couldn't see him? same goes for the PCSOs, probably just didn't know where to start, and if they weren't great swimmers I can't see them going for a swim around to try and find him.

Plus the article says 2m = 6ft, I've been trying to work this out for a few days, but 1" = 2.4cm? surely, so 1' = 28.8cm? so 6' = 173.2cm? that doesn't seem right to me, where am I going wrong?
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:14 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #17
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And? Are they not part of the police? Is watching others try to rescue a drowning kid community support?
so what if they were part of the police? they were not trained for such incidents. if you want to question the morality of not getting in and help, fine - but that question would arise regardless of their job. but instead, you simply wanted to use it as having a go at the police. i am shocked.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:15 PM   The police 'service'. ****ing wussies. Post #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Nearby fishermen managed to pull Bethany from the water but Jordon slipped from view before they could get to him.

The alarm was raised and the PCSOs arrived on the scene. Police said they could see no sign of Jordon in the water, so they radioed trained officers for help.
so why didn't the fishermen go back in? because they couldn't see him? same goes for the PCSOs, probably just didn't know where to start, and if they weren't great swimmers I can't see them going for a swim around to try and find him.

Plus the article says 2m = 6ft, I've been trying to work this out for a few days, but 1" = 2.4cm? surely, so 1' = 28.8cm? so 6' = 173.2cm? that doesn't seem right to me, where am I going wrong? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, the fishermen did go back in. And recovered the boy. Whereupon the police shouted 'stand back, I'm trained for this!' and resuscitated him. He then carked it a few hours later.
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I didn't realise we'd got to a stage where police could only act when they've been trained for a specific eventuality.

What's the good of training a small proportion of police in water rescue - when the chances of any of them being around when needed are remote.
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PCSO's are a waste of space.

Absolute cocks.
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