retired_nauticaperson

Free lunch, baby care and £200 a month spending money for all card carrying labour supporters?

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not even. </BLOCKQUOTE>Free pork pies? </BLOCKQUOTE>how many?

retired_assy22

Stalin wasn't genocidal. Auschwitz was genocidal, Rwanda was genocidal, not Stalin. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Ukrainians, Volga Germans etc would disagree. Although I wouldn't. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, the guy was indiscriminate about it. Best way to kill 10 million people, if you ever wanted to, kill absolutely everybody then hide behind the facade of it being completely necessary to consolidate your iron grip on power.

retired_body_break

I didn't compare Brown to Stalin in any way, if everyone would read what I actually wrote rather than just picking out buzzwords, they'd notice that I said the New Labour technique of mass population control (propaganda and so forth, rather than actual policing) bears echoes of similar techniques used by the communists in Russia and in many countries since. The focus was on one particular area of New Labour policy, not on individuals or even the government as a whole. I could have also mentioned Game Theory, which I suggest everyone look up as it's really quite fascinating, but it's far too complicated for me to explain (aka: can't be bothered).

retired_body_break

Freedom of speech. If someone believes that homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism etc. are sinful/unnatural/blah blah, they should have the right to say it without fear of repercussions or emprisonment. If they act out against those people, then fine. But words mean nothing and just because someone's views might offend someone is no reason to make them illegal. It's basically another voter-friendly rephrasing of 'toe the line or you get jailed' (if there's any room left with all these wonderful new measures which help the real criminals get out earlier than they should- but I wouldn't get me started on that).

No, you need education, trust and personal responsibility. But since this government works on the American model of fear rather than trust and the individual rather than the whole (started by Thatcher), that's not going to happen anytime soon. There are many different and better ways to govern than more laws, regulations and taxes you know.

What has all that borrowed money brought us exactly? An education system which is in complete disarray and is the laughing stock of Europe (possibly the world, if America or Asia cared about anywhere outside their doorstep), a transport system on the verge of collapse and an NHS and police force spiralling out of control thanks to all the Labour bureaucracy and middle-management.

retired_kathydonatto

then you are a moron

retired_kathydonatto

Freedom of speech. If someone believes that homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism etc. are sinful/unnatural/blah blah, they should have the right to say it without fear of repercussions or emprisonment. If they act out against those people, then fine. But words mean nothing and just because someone's views might offend someone is no reason to make them illegal. It's basically another voter-friendly rephrasing of 'toe the line or you get jailed' (if there's any room left with all these wonderful new measures which help the real criminals get out earlier than they should- but I wouldn't get me started on that).

No, you need education, trust and personal responsibility. But since this government works on the American model of fear rather than trust and the individual rather than the whole (started by Thatcher), that's not going to happen anytime soon. There are many different and better ways to govern than more laws, regulations and taxes you know.

What has all that borrowed money brought us exactly? An education system which is in complete disarray and is the laughing stock of Europe (possibly the world, if America or Asia cared about anywhere outside their doorstep), a transport system on the verge of collapse and an NHS and police force spiralling out of control thanks to all the Labour bureaucracy and middle-management. </BLOCKQUOTE>

subsitute black, asian and jewish for homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism and you will see how your approach to free speech is flawed.

otherwise i agree, typical of smiley dan and his ilk to argue for bigger government and more regulation.

retired_princesspouty

I didn't compare Brown to Stalin in any way, if everyone would read what I actually wrote rather than just picking out buzzwords, they'd notice that I said the New Labour technique of mass population control (propaganda and so forth, rather than actual policing) bears echoes of similar techniques used by the communists in Russia and in many countries since. The focus was on one particular area of New Labour policy, not on individuals or even the government as a whole. I could have also mentioned Game Theory, which I suggest everyone look up as it's really quite fascinating, but it's far too complicated for me to explain (aka: can't be bothered). </BLOCKQUOTE>
I didn't say you did... and it's not me that used buzzwords either - not really my style tbh.

And I know what Game Theory is as I studied it at university. Can't even remember what module it was part of... and it wasn't anywhere near as interesting as it sounded either.

retired_nauticaperson

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typical tory bully boy. get it through your thick blue tinted "brain". I've seen what 18 years of conservatism has done to the uk and have no desire to see it again.

w@nker

retired_princesspouty

I agree with the fat ass-kisser. I'd find it very difficult to vote conservative and I saw those 18 years in full Glorious Technicolor too.

retired_princesspouty

*replace 'very difficult' with 'impossible'. It'd be like someone Jewish voting for the Nazi party (now that's Gibson's law!!