retired_brittneyloveshim

that`s not evidence at all of the nhs being of poor quality, sorry. all it shows is that some people are willing to pay for healthcare above and beyond the socialised provision, just as some people in a private provision situation (assuming away all the very real market failures) would be willing to pay more than others.

your last point is again totally without any evidence. nhs employment has of course risen with the expansion of nhs output but to claim that this is merely to reduce unemployment completely ignores the fact that extra employment in the nhs was required to meet the needs of the capital expansion and ignores the crowding out effect of public sector spending.

retired_rachelst

Since you're being difficult:
http://www.oecd.org/document/30/0,3343,en_2649_37407_12..._1_1_1_37407,00.html

retired_rachelst

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/46/2/38980580.pdf

retired_brittneyloveshim

Try to bear in mind we are not all terminally middle class, and hence some of us refuse point blank to countenance a spreadsheet on our HDDS. </BLOCKQUOTE>

nothing to say but: hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

retired_ks reddy

that`s not evidence at all of the nhs being of poor quality, sorry. all it shows is that some people are willing to pay for healthcare above and beyond the socialised provision, just as some people in a private provision situation (assuming away all the very real market failures) would be willing to pay more than others.

your last point is again totally without any evidence. nhs employment has of course risen with the expansion of nhs output but to claim that this is merely to reduce unemployment completely ignores the fact that extra employment in the nhs was required to meet the needs of the capital expansion and ignores the crowding out effect of public sector spending. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's see shall we? The NHS is the world's largest employer behind the Chinese armed forces and the Indian railways. Something wrong there, isn't there?

And there'd be an awful lot more people going private if the taxman knocked 1600 quid a year off for everyone who did so.

retired_swampdawgie1967

glad i have caught this weeks dismissal xclap

retired_brittneyloveshim

yet it costs the same as most countries spend on healthcare with closer to universal provision. something going right there, isn`t there?

have you accepted yet that your "$2000 less" figure is absolute horseshit?

retired_ks reddy

TBF that was SLAMPA's figure, not mine. And anyway, bloody Yanks earn rather more than we do.

retired_tallgirl

Bert, leave the intellectual stuff for the thinking people.

retired_brittneyloveshim

but that`s irrelevant. the stats are ppp - they correct for purchasing power and even if you correct again to find it as a percentage of gdp (ppp) per capita the nhs still costs less (only by about 28 usd ppp per capita) for universal provision than the us does for very narrow provision.