retired_navy0614

PAYG/Health insurance. And calling anything socialist (or state controlled) efficient (or hinting in that regard) is a bit tbh. I'm also in favour of health taxes (drink a lot? smoke? drugs? overweight?) on top of the VAT you get on those goods (or not in drugs' case) </BLOCKQUOTE>

ofc.

retired_may0gan

minimalist state zatisev? aren't you a teacher?

retired_lyriclemelodee

Your whole opinion on this issue is absolute ******** so wasn't sure where to start - this paragraph will do nicely.

Education - teachers on better pay, far better facilities and exam results have improved. SHAMBLES. Please bring me some FACTS that show me things have got worse over the last ten years - almost everything I've heard suggest most things have improved significantly.

Transport - not a huge fan, but worse than in the 80s? And a recent survey of travellers put London at No.1 for Transport...take from that what you will.

Police - Hasn't crime actually fallen? Don't let that get in the way of your hysteria though.

NHS getting worse - seriously, is that a joke? Please do look at some facts on waiting lists, operations, staff pay etc.

Sorry I didn’t put much effort into that - but nothing you’ve written makes me think it would be worth it. Oh and in case you wondering - I have actually heard the arguments “OMGZ bureaucracy” and “OMGZ gun crime” before, so if you want to change my mind please bring some NATIONAL statistics to the table. And no, I don’t believe everything the government ever says but I do put a degree of trust into education/health/crime figures. </BLOCKQUOTE>

for the amount of money that has been chucked at the above services nothing other than improvement could have been expected however given the amount spent it should have improved more tbh.

NHS is a monolithic symbol of a bygone era when treatment and dugs where cheap and affordable, nowadays in many cases the nhs cannot afford the best treatment for disease etc because they cannot afford it. It may have improved but we still lag behind many of our neighbours in terms of treatment for the most sevre diseases. I would much rather see a reduction in my tax bill and pay for my own health insurance. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes but surely you can see there's a huge difference between "for the amount of money spent there should have been more improvement" and the clearly ridiculous "Britain is a shambles, never been worse" tripe which some people spout.

retired_brittneyloveshim

it`s not really "". healthcare markets fail. they aren`t `normal` markets. payment at the point of use fails as a market because people have to make decisions potentially when incapacitated, because it gives doctors an incentive to give out unnecessary treatment to people who don`t and can`t understand the treatment they need. there`s absolutely no examples of any government following such a policy. non-compulsory private insurance markets fail largely because there`s no easy way to identify high and low risk groups and charge them appropriately.

i`m against health taxes because they`re so ****ing arbitrary.

retired_navy0614

I'm a very unique teacher. And by teaching History, Politics, GCSE Humanities, Key Skills, Tutorial as well as Psychology and Geography along the way I'm doing my own bit to keep the education sector minimalist

retired_erynelouise

Maths is all we need to teach, then we'd all get on.

retired_brittneyloveshim

if it`s a fact then give some examples. nice authorise any medicine that is proven clinically and is cost effective per qaly.

you still haven`t said what "best" is or how you would achieve it. i`m interested.

retired_navy0614

Of course there are potential faults with a PAYG/Health Insurance, but I see them as less so than a socialised provision. For a start, the utter unfairness in charging healthy people to pay for the healthcare of people who don't look after themselves. At the very least the current system is vastly ineffieicent, and further moves towards a market approach would help to curb that.

retired_brittneyloveshim

obviously that should be `treatment` rather than `medicine`

retired_navy0614

tbh, maths and english are the only core subjects I'd demand people study after a certain point. But my education ideas are for another thread .