Labour Stealing Conservative Policies

retired_the gizmo · 10-10-2007, 09:40 PM

I'm in favor of the maximalist state and indentured servitude.

take that ayn rand!

retired_the gizmo · 10-10-2007, 09:41 PM

bet you had the bbc interviewing you when you got the results as well.

retired_nauticaperson · 10-10-2007, 09:43 PM

Five, man. Five.

retired_kathydonatto · 10-10-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by theboydonegood:
I do not want 'adequate' treatment so the fact you are saying that the NHS provides this is in essence supporting my statement that you do not get the 'best' treatment.

so thanks

utterly moronic statement. no country has THE BEST treatment because it`s ****ing impossible on a planet that doesn`t have unlimited resources. if you want the best treatment then we will have to devote just about 100% of gdp - whether it's public or privately funded - to it. that means no food and no water, but top treatment when you`re starving to death. why not run for office on that policy? FREE DRIPS FOR ALL! </BLOCKQUOTE>

yes because thats exactly what i was advocating, you really need to stop being so literal - its funny

retired_brittneyloveshim · 10-10-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:
Socialised medicine is rubbish though.

it`s less rubbish than all the alternatives. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it really? Not in my mind. But then, I'm in favour of the minimalist state and low taxes. </BLOCKQUOTE>

so what would you replace it with? i`m not utterly anti-capitalist (a lie actually, i am) but there are clear efficiency reasons for not leaving healthcare provision to markets.

retired_kathydonatto · 10-10-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zaitsev:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:
Socialised medicine is rubbish though.

it`s less rubbish than all the alternatives. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it really? Not in my mind. But then, I'm in favour of the minimalist state and low taxes. </BLOCKQUOTE>

whs

retired_erynelouise · 10-10-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rohan:
Monetary policy can affect the whole economy via a number of possible transmission mechanisms. There is a paper by Mishkin entitled "Introduction" in the Journal of Economic Perspectives that explains it better than I could, but it essentially says that montary policy can work via the interest rate, the exchange rate, other asset prices, bank lending and balance sheets.

There is a vast literature on whether fiscal or monetary policy is the more potent in controlling the economy. However, use of the IS-LM model can show that, in an economy with a floating exchange rate, fiscal policy is completely ineffective at affecting output, whereas monetary policy is fully effective.

Nonetheless, the above paragraph is taking an extreme view and other considerations (such as regulation etc, which are separate from fiscal policy) may affect economic performance. It is hard to measure the exact degree of this effect and as such is hard to decompose the overall performance of an economy into finding exactly what caused it.
[snip]

Nice post; my first paragraph was ambiguous, 'simply' was meant in a 'not only' way, and I was perhaps over simplistic on the blunt instrument point.

retired_brittneyloveshim · 10-10-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theboydonegood:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by theboydonegood:
I do not want 'adequate' treatment so the fact you are saying that the NHS provides this is in essence supporting my statement that you do not get the 'best' treatment.

so thanks

utterly moronic statement. no country has THE BEST treatment because it`s ****ing impossible on a planet that doesn`t have unlimited resources. if you want the best treatment then we will have to devote just about 100% of gdp - whether it's public or privately funded - to it. that means no food and no water, but top treatment when you`re starving to death. why not run for office on that policy? FREE DRIPS FOR ALL! </BLOCKQUOTE>

yes because thats exactly what i was advocating, you really need to stop being so literal - its funny </BLOCKQUOTE>

what were you advocating when you said "best" then? WHEN IIIIIIIIII USE A WORD!

retired_navy0614 · 10-10-2007, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
so what would you replace it with? i`m not utterly anti-capitalist (a lie actually, i am) but there are clear efficiency reasons for not leaving healthcare provision to markets.

PAYG/Health insurance. And calling anything socialist efficient (or hinting in that regard) is a bit

tbh. I'm also in favour of health taxes (drink a lot? smoke? drugs? overweight?) on top of the VAT you get on those goods (or not in drugs' case)

retired_kathydonatto · 10-10-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by theboydonegood:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by johnsoncarmichael:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by theboydonegood:
I do not want 'adequate' treatment so the fact you are saying that the NHS provides this is in essence supporting my statement that you do not get the 'best' treatment.

so thanks

utterly moronic statement. no country has THE BEST treatment because it`s ****ing impossible on a planet that doesn`t have unlimited resources. if you want the best treatment then we will have to devote just about 100% of gdp - whether it's public or privately funded - to it. that means no food and no water, but top treatment when you`re starving to death. why not run for office on that policy? FREE DRIPS FOR ALL! </BLOCKQUOTE>

yes because thats exactly what i was advocating, you really need to stop being so literal - its funny </BLOCKQUOTE>

what were you advocating when you said "best" then? WHEN IIIIIIIIII USE A WORD! </BLOCKQUOTE>

eh????

but anyway - my point was that i dont see providing adequate treatment as a great selling point for the nhs, its a fact that certain critical drugs are not affordable to nhs so you just get the most affordable alternative, the answer in my mind is not to leech more money from hard working people especially when it is so frivolously wasted.

Labour Stealing Conservative Policies

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Labour Stealing Conservative Policies