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retired_navy0614 · 10-10-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh:
I'm beginning to think that primary would be much more rewarding than secondary. I may be wrong though. Thoughts?

Here's my two train of thoughts:

Teaching ICT in a middle / secondary school. Firstly, I'd imagine that my degree would allow me to teach this. Secondly, there is a £9,000 non-repayable bursary (although £3,000 is to be paid in tuition fees) and a £2,500 'golden hello' after my first complete year of teaching. On the downside, I know that I, for one, didn't respect my ICT teacher, it was a joke, everybody treated it as such and tbh, it was a bit of a dos.

Teaching primary. I think this would be more rewarding. Seeing the kids learn and mature, with the actual sense that you're making a difference on their lives. I know this is what I enjoyed most about my placement over the summer (5-12 year olds). Unfortunately, the initial financial benefits for going into primary aren't as good. A £4,000 bursary (£3,000 to be paid in tuition fees) and no 'golden hello'.

I know I should look long term and not necessarily be swayed by the initial monetary benefits, but the incentives for ICT are really quite good. Job satisfaction is probably worth more than the difference in the financial benefits. I'm still undecided though.

What are you doing at the moment? May be an idea to fish around your local Primary's and ask if you can come in once a week (Or more? full/half day, whatever you can manage..if at all) for a lengthy period...maybe even the whole year. Volunteer at first like, will give you a taste of what it would be like on a prolonged basis, and also will look fabulous on a job app.

retired_tripaige · 10-10-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Gav Stone:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:

Gav's a <STRIKE>kiddy fiddler</STRIKE> primary teacher, he'd be able to tell you about the pros and cons of that particular strand

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Burn in hell, Zaitsev

I will gather some thoughts for you Matt. Where are you based right now, though? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Living in Manchester for the last few years, but 'home' is Stafford. Probably going to head back there in the summer.

retired_hvporter · 10-10-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by xnellyrx:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by JK Galgreefe:
business studies teacher is one of the most ideal jobs i can think of. only teach gcse and a level, get loads of free periods, and ofc you still qualify for all the incentives to be a teacher.

nah its not, they will timetable you for other things aswell, like BCS if you are light on your timetable and you will be one of maybe 2 or 3 staff who teach it in the entire school. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Business Studies teacher normally have to double up in other subjects too, such as Maths or ICT.

retired_tripaige · 10-10-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by readingfanman:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh:
I'm beginning to think that primary would be much more rewarding than secondary. I may be wrong though. Thoughts?

Here's my two train of thoughts:

Teaching ICT in a middle / secondary school. Firstly, I'd imagine that my degree would allow me to teach this. Secondly, there is a £9,000 non-repayable bursary (although £3,000 is to be paid in tuition fees) and a £2,500 'golden hello' after my first complete year of teaching. On the downside, I know that I, for one, didn't respect my ICT teacher, it was a joke, everybody treated it as such and tbh, it was a bit of a dos.

Teaching primary. I think this would be more rewarding. Seeing the kids learn and mature, with the actual sense that you're making a difference on their lives. I know this is what I enjoyed most about my placement over the summer (5-12 year olds). Unfortunately, the initial financial benefits for going into primary aren't as good. A £4,000 bursary (£3,000 to be paid in tuition fees) and no 'golden hello'.

I know I should look long term and not necessarily be swayed by the initial monetary benefits, but the incentives for ICT are really quite good. Job satisfaction is probably worth more than the difference in the financial benefits. I'm still undecided though.

Just started 6th form , and I can tell you I look fondly upon all of my primary school teachers basically. I much preffered them to secondary school teachers who are a lot harsher and don't feel as knowing about you having to teach a lot more classes.

Go with primary if only for the long term satisfaction :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, exactly. Me too. I'm thinking that you may be right.

retired_hvporter · 10-10-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gav Stone:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Zaitsev:

Gav's a <STRIKE>kiddy fiddler</STRIKE> primary teacher, he'd be able to tell you about the pros and cons of that particular strand

.

Burn in hell, Zaitsev

I will gather some thoughts for you Matt. Where are you based right now, though? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Living in Manchester for the last few years, but 'home' is Stafford. Probably going to head back there in the summer. </BLOCKQUOTE>Was going to offer you a few days in a Prep school in Surrey. That way, you would be able to see a range of ages from 3-13. Still, the offer stands if you are keen.

retired_tripaige · 10-10-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Zaitsev:

What are you doing at the moment? May be an idea to fish around your local Primary's and ask if you can come in once a week (Or more? full/half day, whatever you can manage..if at all) for a lengthy period...maybe even the whole year. Volunteer at first like, will give you a taste of what it would be like on a prolonged basis, and also will look fabulous on a job app.

Third year of a BSc in Information Management at Manchester Met.

Will almost certainly phone up and ask for some volunteering work.

retired_amadhani · 10-10-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Gav Stone:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by xnellyrx:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by JK Galgreefe:
business studies teacher is one of the most ideal jobs i can think of. only teach gcse and a level, get loads of free periods, and ofc you still qualify for all the incentives to be a teacher.

nah its not, they will timetable you for other things aswell, like BCS if you are light on your timetable and you will be one of maybe 2 or 3 staff who teach it in the entire school. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Business Studies teacher normally have to double up in other subjects too, such as Maths or ICT. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well in some schools they can have whole departments for it, although they are not very big, you can be the only one teaching it and lumbered with 100's different students from yr10 to yr13.

retired_jabda · 10-10-2007, 09:12 PM

Prep as in a primary school with boarders? 3 year old boarders? wtf?

Nothing against prep schools now, my dad went to one and loved it, can't remember which one it was, somewhere in Lancashire, didn't learn much but he could do an about-turn and stand-to-attention with a wooden rifle better than anybody.

retired_hvporter · 10-10-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by finneys13:
Prep as in a primary school with boarders? 3 year old boarders? wtf?

Nothing against prep schools now, my dad went to one and loved it, can't remember which one it was, somewhere in Lancashire, didn't learn much but he could do an about-turn and stand-to-attention with a wooden rifle better than anybody.

Not all prep schools have boarders.

retired_tripaige · 10-10-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Gav Stone:
Was going to offer you a few days in a Prep school in Surrey. That way, you would be able to see a range of ages from 3-13. Still, the offer stands if you are keen.

All my family are from the London/Essex area, so that option isn't totally out of the window.

Thank you Gav.

Can I ask your (general) thoughts on teaching primary?

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