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Old 10-09-2007, 10:15 AM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #111
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Richie P:
UEFA have already changed their resgistration laws. It could work at the moment, employ who you like, doesn't mean they are allowed to register to play matches. Inevitably there will eventually be a compromise reached on this, as it's not cut and dry.
Would not work as it is the UEFA (and thereby FA too) rules that has to follow EU law. It isn't the clubs that have rules against foreigners. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats barely cohesive. On this one Blatter is right though, a reasonable limit on foreigners (say 8 in the XI) would change little (apart from Arsenal perhaps) and help a lot in the long run too.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:28 AM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #112
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by James07?:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mr Wallin:
because the CL rule doesn't care about nationality at all. And hence it's not addressing the issue that Blatter is on about.

That was my point...in England the nationality thing is a bit of a red herring. We need to look at the internal rules and change the fact it's easier for Arsenal to sign a 15yr old from Barcelona than one from Bradford. </BLOCKQUOTE>

What??? You aren't making much sense really...

The english WP rules tries to favour english players while the CL rules doesn't give a fcuk about nationality and hence is the one helping Arsenal. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not talking about WP or Champions League rules. I'm talking about the rules governing which youngsters clubs can recruit to their academies.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:32 AM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #113
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Has anyone mentioned the Cotonou accord yet?
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:36 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #114
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mr Wallin:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Richie P:
UEFA have already changed their resgistration laws. It could work at the moment, employ who you like, doesn't mean they are allowed to register to play matches. Inevitably there will eventually be a compromise reached on this, as it's not cut and dry.
Would not work as it is the UEFA (and thereby FA too) rules that has to follow EU law. It isn't the clubs that have rules against foreigners. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats barely cohesive. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I'll try it again. It isn't allowed to stop EU-citizens to work due to their nationality.
And your idea (to limit how many that is allowed on the pitch) would bee seen as such a restriction and hence it won't work with EU-citizens (and now probably not with the 94 Cotonou countries too).
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:37 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #115
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Has anyone mentioned the Cotonou accord yet?
Yea we did.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:38 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #116
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I'm not talking about WP or Champions League rules. I'm talking about the rules governing which youngsters clubs can recruit to their academies.

Well the post I responded to was this.

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not sure why they need to take it this far. Why not apply the quota rules from the Champions League to domestic competition?

And I responded with...

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because the CL rule doesn't care about nationality at all. And hence it's not addressing the issue that Blatter is on about.

And that I stand by. The CL rules has nothing to do with nationality (what Blatter was on about). And it has even less to do with the rules for recruiting youngsters (that you somehow added to the discussion).

Even though I think it might be a good idea to make the CL rules come in play for all domestic leagues too I still can't see why you suggested it as it doesn't solve any issue that has been discussed here.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:45 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #117
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The WP rules don't favour English players though, they favour EU players, which I feel is important to bring up.

I (think) James was alluding to the fact that before we look at CL rules for home grown players (which as had been pointed out don't care about nationality), we need to sort out FA rules making it easier for a club like Arsenal to sign any 16 year old from any other country inside the EU, rather than a lad from York.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:27 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #118
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The WP rules don't favour English players though, they favour EU players, which I feel is important to bring up.
Kind of my point Fran.



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I (think) James was alluding to the fact that before we look at CL rules for home grown players (which as had been pointed out don't care about nationality), we need to sort out FA rules making it easier for a club like Arsenal to sign any 16 year old from any other country inside the EU, rather than a lad from York.
But, but, but... It was HE who made the suggestion of using the CL rules.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:35 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #119
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The WP rules don't favour English players though, they favour EU players, which I feel is important to bring up.
ok, I just briefly saw
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The english WP rules tries to favour english players
and just thought it needed to be said

I'm sure we can all agree that the rules, whatever they are, don't work!
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Old 10-13-2007, 11:48 PM   Blatter is back: keen to limit foreign quota Post #120
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The english WP rules tries to favour english players
and just thought it needed to be said

I'm sure we can all agree that the rules, whatever they are, don't work! </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea I know. They are meant to favour brittish citizens but the EU kind of stops that.

If they work or not is a different question where we first need to decide what it is we want them to do. (but I think I agree )
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