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Old 10-09-2007, 08:15 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #151
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I wouldnt make too many changes at the back and i'd keep Robinson in there. Want as much familarity as possible at the back at the moment. Only change i'd make is for Terry.

I'd hope that the likes of Joe Cole, etc can go through 90 mins without picking up another yellow against a side like Estonia.

I like Richard's thrust down the right so would be loathe to move him inside tbh. I'm guessing he'll go for the experienced old head of Campbell in the centre then
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Also, not only the yellow with Terry. He has that stupid mask on as well. May as well give him a bit of time off. Coupled with the yellow it makes most sense.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:40 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #153
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Green better than Carson? No way
Why is it so laughable? He is
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:46 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #154
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he could stick Phil Neville at right back, and play Micah Richards there.

I'd actually be quite happy to see:

Shorey ---- Campbell/Brown ---- Richards ---- P Neville


rest all the players on yellow cards that way. it's Estonia ffs.
Campbell/Brown apparently injured, Lescott might play /o\.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:48 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #155
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Lescott so fb :cool:
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:50 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #156
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that's the problem
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:50 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #157
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I wouldnt mind Lescott playing tbh. He may chuck Richards in the centre as a 'more experienced international' and then play Phil Neville at right back but i'd rather Richards stays right back and Lescott comes in. You'd hope Estonia wouldnt be too sturn a test and he might score
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:46 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #158
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Is it Spartak that play there ? Celtic got a result against them. I think they said the pitch was watered (!) as well before the game and the Ruskies werent even that happy on it.

Does anyone know how many times have the Russian side even played on this pitch ? How many Spartak players in the side ?

in answer to your question Razzler, the Luzhniki Stadium is actually Torpedo Moscow's home ground, and really they are only the city's 4th or 5th biggest club. Spartak also use it, but i'm not sure if they play all their games there. they're actually planning to build a new ground across the city somewhere - in any case only a couple of Spartak's players are in the national squad anyway.

even the Russian national team don't normally use it; they normally play at one of the other Moscow stadiums holding about 40,000. i'd guess that they've chosen the Luzhniki this time because they can sell more tickets, plus it's a chance to do a dry run for the UEFA suits ahead of the Champions League final

so really, you can't say it's much of an advantage for them when their players aren't used to it either. i suppose they'll train on it more ahead of the match... as far as i know, the England team have only got one training session on it and that's the day before the game.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:49 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #159
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Here's the Russia squad anyway:


Goalkeepers: Vyacheslav Malafeev (Zenit St. Petersburg), Anton Shunin (Dynamo Moscow), Vladimir Gabulov (Kuban)

Defenders: Alexander Anyukov (Zenit St. Petersburg), Alexei Berezutskiy (CSKA Moscow), Vasiliy Berezutskiy (CSKA Moscow), Sergei Ignashevich (CSKA Moscow), Denis Kolodin (Dynamo Moscow)

Midfielders: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Lokomotiv Moscow), Yuri Zhirkov (CSKA Moscow), Ivan Saenko (FC Nuremberg), Igor Semshov (Dynamo Moscow), Konstantin Zyryanov (Zenit St. Petersburg), Dmitry Torbinskiy (Spartak Moscow)

Forwards: Alexander Kerzhakov (Sevilla), Andrei Arshavin (Zenit St. Petersburg), Pavel Pogrebnyak (Zenit St. Petersburg), Roman Pavlyuchenko (Spartak Mosocw), Dmitry Sychev (Lokomotiv Moscow)
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:00 PM   Arise, comrades! England v Estonia & Russia v England *match spoilers, and McClaren turning out to be not that bad after all* Post #160
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Robinson also confirmed to start.
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